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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 9379842" data-attributes="member: 58197">I'd be on board with Fighter getting renamed to Knight with the caveat that it's going to give up its claim to Dex-primary builds, surrendering those to the Ranger. While the name comes with some baggage around knightly ideals and feudal reality, it does a splendid job of indicating &quot;heavily armored warrior&quot; to a general audience.Then the Ranger can be renamed Skirmisher or Stalker or Hunter, giving it a much-needed expansion of its niche, and the spellcasting wilderness specialist can be a subclass -- the class-formerly-known-as-Ranger dabbling in druidic magic just as the Knight can dabble in arcane via Eldritch Knight.However, putting the name &quot;Fighter&quot; onto the Monk just does not fit. &quot;Fighter&quot; is way too generic and should be retired altogether. I think BECMI had the right idea, using the term Mystic instead of Monk. This would also provide much-needed niche expansion; the unarmed combat specialist would be a subclass.Of course, this still leaves the question of where the unarmed Strength-based build lives. For that, I think we turn to the Barbarian...Not that any of this will happen, of course. WotC learned hard lessons about messing with tradition in 4E, and the Fighter class is one of the most hallowed traditions of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 9379842, member: 58197"] I'd be on board with Fighter getting renamed to Knight with the caveat that it's going to give up its claim to Dex-primary builds, surrendering those to the Ranger. While the name comes with some baggage around knightly ideals and feudal reality, it does a splendid job of indicating "heavily armored warrior" to a general audience. Then the Ranger can be renamed Skirmisher or Stalker or Hunter, giving it a much-needed expansion of its niche, and the spellcasting wilderness specialist can be a subclass -- the class-formerly-known-as-Ranger dabbling in druidic magic just as the Knight can dabble in arcane via Eldritch Knight. However, putting the name "Fighter" onto the Monk just does not fit. "Fighter" is way too generic and should be retired altogether. I think BECMI had the right idea, using the term Mystic instead of Monk. This would also provide much-needed niche expansion; the unarmed combat specialist would be a subclass. Of course, this still leaves the question of where the unarmed Strength-based build lives. For that, I think we turn to the Barbarian... Not that any of this will happen, of course. WotC learned hard lessons about messing with tradition in 4E, and the Fighter class is one of the most hallowed traditions of the game. [/QUOTE]

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