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<blockquote data-quote="DiFier" data-source="post: 1074270" data-attributes="member: 2345"><p>You are giving fighters spells based off of not a stat but their BAB which is high already if they had to cast spells based on Int or Wis or even Cha I would have less of a problem with it. Becasue those are dump stats for fighters, just like strength is for a wizard. </p><p></p><p>It would be like saying that for one feat a wizard gets an extra attack for every 10 caster levels. and adds his spell level/3 to his attacks and damage.</p><p></p><p>Why would you not take that feat? fighter's get so many feats that they might as well pick up a feat that gives them powerful spellcasting based off of their BAB and only at the loss of a few feat slots. Why wouldn't a wizard take the feat I suggested? he gets less feats overall but now he can attack better. </p><p></p><p>These feat are too powerful. Name me one other feat that progresses as you level. There may be some but I bet they are very far from core. Feats in general get less powerful as you level. That +2 to spot and listen was great at 1st level but at 20th when you have 23 ranks of spot and listen and a wisdom of 20 it is nice but the difference in rolling a +3- or a +28 isn't as great as +7 to +5. </p><p></p><p>The feat(s) you suggested seems designed to bypass multicalssing. give the fighter spells with out the disadvantages of multiclassing.</p><p></p><p>Edit: you are alos saying that the only advantage a fighter has is his BAB I diagree. You forget arcane spell failure and HP. Fighters have way more survivability than wizards or even wizard/fighters do. Sure a wizard/fighter can wear full plate but he's not going to be casting many spells in it. how much damage does a fireball do when it fails? none. Your fighter spells don't take into account spell failure.</p><p></p><p>Fighters only need 2 good stats, Strenght and Constitution. Heavy armor takes care of low dex, and the mental stats are almost useless for a fighter. Wizards Need Intelligence, Dex and Con. A fighter wizard needs Intelligence Dex, Strength and Con. only cha and wis can be low. :end edit</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DiFier, post: 1074270, member: 2345"] You are giving fighters spells based off of not a stat but their BAB which is high already if they had to cast spells based on Int or Wis or even Cha I would have less of a problem with it. Becasue those are dump stats for fighters, just like strength is for a wizard. It would be like saying that for one feat a wizard gets an extra attack for every 10 caster levels. and adds his spell level/3 to his attacks and damage. Why would you not take that feat? fighter's get so many feats that they might as well pick up a feat that gives them powerful spellcasting based off of their BAB and only at the loss of a few feat slots. Why wouldn't a wizard take the feat I suggested? he gets less feats overall but now he can attack better. These feat are too powerful. Name me one other feat that progresses as you level. There may be some but I bet they are very far from core. Feats in general get less powerful as you level. That +2 to spot and listen was great at 1st level but at 20th when you have 23 ranks of spot and listen and a wisdom of 20 it is nice but the difference in rolling a +3- or a +28 isn't as great as +7 to +5. The feat(s) you suggested seems designed to bypass multicalssing. give the fighter spells with out the disadvantages of multiclassing. Edit: you are alos saying that the only advantage a fighter has is his BAB I diagree. You forget arcane spell failure and HP. Fighters have way more survivability than wizards or even wizard/fighters do. Sure a wizard/fighter can wear full plate but he's not going to be casting many spells in it. how much damage does a fireball do when it fails? none. Your fighter spells don't take into account spell failure. Fighters only need 2 good stats, Strenght and Constitution. Heavy armor takes care of low dex, and the mental stats are almost useless for a fighter. Wizards Need Intelligence, Dex and Con. A fighter wizard needs Intelligence Dex, Strength and Con. only cha and wis can be low. :end edit [/QUOTE]
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