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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 1970115" data-attributes="member: 2486"><p>Granted, but surely the point is that unless you have a very unorthodox method of character generation, you don't just "happen" to play a half-orc bard.  You don't roll randomly for class, and nor for race, so choosing to be a half-orc with a reliance on Charisma and Intelligence is a conscious decision.  If I created a race with a -2 penalty to every ability score, there would be little grounds for complaint, as virtually no one would play a character of that race.  Similarly, if you don't feel that +2 Strength is worth -2 Int and Cha, then fine: don't play a half-orc.  No-one is forcing you to play one.  Half-orcs are designed to be melee brutes who care little for Intelligence and even less for Charisma.  Choosing to play a half-orc bard and then whining about the penalties is totally illogical.</p></blockquote><p></p>