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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaisoku" data-source="post: 5411981" data-attributes="member: 58447">If all you are looking at is damage, attack, and AC, then yeah... the Fighter will be an obvious choice here.The Barbarian gives access to rage abilities. Things like DR, or immunities, or animalistic traits like scent or night vision. Better skills (amount and selection), as well as things like uncanny dodge and trap sense.These are things that point the Barbarian towards a specific feel and theme, that is different from the Fighter class.The Fighter class feels far more clinical in their approach to combat. They learn about weapons and armor and how to best use them. It's not so much "Hulk Smash", but rather practice upon practice with a wide assortment of tools of war, learning exactly how to swing a blade or thrust a spear to be the most effective... or how to move in armor without hindrance, or how to make that blow more crippling.This is just like how the Paladin feels different from the Ranger... one is clearly bent on aiding others and driving out evil, while the other is about learning how to use the weaknesses of his targets, and the environment around him, to his advantage.They made the classes around themes, not around numbers. This is why you play a Barbarian vs a Fighter. Not because the numbers are higher.Note that I'm not arguing that the Barbarian should or shouldn't do more or less damage than the Fighter while raging or not, etc.I'm only addressing the "play a Barbarian if you want to play a Barbarian" comments.As it is.. the Barbarian could stand to have a slightly more powerful base rage effect... I'm not sure if it needs more Strength, but perhaps some additional morale bonuses by default (automatic, not from rage powers). Something like a crit range or multiplier increase, or further increases to CMB/CMD (above the benefits of higher strength), etc. These would put the Barbarian in a position to compete against the Fighter's numbers, without having to "beat the numbers".</blockquote>

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