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<blockquote data-quote="Kaiyanwang" data-source="post: 5419584" data-attributes="member: 91656"><p>So try out either a Beast Totem+ Ferocious Bite or a Fiendish Totem Barbarian.. add in Terrifying Howl.</p><p></p><p>+8 Constitution means 80 HP at leel 20... but his is on top of d12 + standard constitution. And DR of 5/-, 10/- or features and rage powers able to absorb damage. In top of powers to absorb spell damage and to get bonuses to saves.</p><p></p><p>+8 Strenght means +4 hit + 4/6 damage, <em>but is on the top of all sort of things.</em> A barbarian can get str 40 ragin at that level.</p><p></p><p>Add in strenght surge and greater grapple. With the ferocious bite above, you can get a +61 to a grapple check in one round. One could use surprise accuracy and few bonuses for a + 46 in one round, and then use the +20 of SS for the CMD the subsequent round to avoid enemies escape.</p><p></p><p>Take a look to high CR monsters... these numbers (barring FoM but no perfect tactic exist) are comparable.</p><p></p><p>Add in powers to smackdown, during a full attack or a sudden, unexpected AOO, enemies around, or to throw obects, or to destroy things ignoring hardness. Adamantine Axes, Walls.. everything broken.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, this represents quite well a towering behemoth of the battlefield.</p><p></p><p>Not to say that it couldn't be done better (see the athlete powers, or the fact that guarded life should have been a mechanic inherent to rage <em>and I freaking hate patch feats</em> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/rant.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rant:" title="Rant :rant:" data-shortname=":rant:" /> ).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaiyanwang, post: 5419584, member: 91656"] So try out either a Beast Totem+ Ferocious Bite or a Fiendish Totem Barbarian.. add in Terrifying Howl. +8 Constitution means 80 HP at leel 20... but his is on top of d12 + standard constitution. And DR of 5/-, 10/- or features and rage powers able to absorb damage. In top of powers to absorb spell damage and to get bonuses to saves. +8 Strenght means +4 hit + 4/6 damage, [I]but is on the top of all sort of things.[/I] A barbarian can get str 40 ragin at that level. Add in strenght surge and greater grapple. With the ferocious bite above, you can get a +61 to a grapple check in one round. One could use surprise accuracy and few bonuses for a + 46 in one round, and then use the +20 of SS for the CMD the subsequent round to avoid enemies escape. Take a look to high CR monsters... these numbers (barring FoM but no perfect tactic exist) are comparable. Add in powers to smackdown, during a full attack or a sudden, unexpected AOO, enemies around, or to throw obects, or to destroy things ignoring hardness. Adamantine Axes, Walls.. everything broken. IMHO, this represents quite well a towering behemoth of the battlefield. Not to say that it couldn't be done better (see the athlete powers, or the fact that guarded life should have been a mechanic inherent to rage [I]and I freaking hate patch feats[/I] :rant: ). [/QUOTE]
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