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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaodi" data-source="post: 5831586" data-attributes="member: 1231">I think part of the problem in some earlier editions is that for a fighter to make a " save or die " attack in any round the way a wizard does, they need a very specific special weapon, a vorpal sword. Only in 4E did they finally get to choose when to attempt a " mortal blow " like a wizard. And the thing is, in fantasy literature (and other entertainment), fighters are awesome because the writer allows them to make " mortal blows " . St. George and the Dragon, Bard and Smaug, Grom and Mannoroth. When even fights with the BBEG last only six to ten rounds, it is really hard to get in a massive hit when you only have a 1 in 20 chance of really giving it to him. A wizard or cleric, however, often have the potential to end the fight on the very first round, especially if the BBEG has to roll higher than a 1 to make his save.</blockquote>