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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 5831974" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>That would be the "Wahoo Martial" option I mentioned. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm quite familiar with the legend, and I'm afraid fighting is only a fraction of his abilities. In the first place, he's not even a natural creature: he was hatched from an egg of stone. Then, he went to study magic (72 transformations). His immortality was "earned" through a variety of methods, including thievery: he crossed out his name from the King of Death's register, and he stole and ate peaches and pills of immortality. He was effectively a demigod, and was probably powergamed and multiclassed to the hilt. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> And he was definitely not travelling with a balanced party.</p><p></p><p>I'm of the view that epic destinies could have mattered more if they had been more like themes and offered characters the option to swap out class powers for epic destiny powers. </p><p></p><p>That said, my previous post came from the perspective that fighter abilities could plausibly be balanced with magic spells at Heroic and maybe Paragon levels. Using epic destinies to step outside of the pure fighter concept is more a way to add plausibility to the idea that a character who started out as a normal humanoid warrior could break the laws of physics as we know them. It's not an exercise in giving fighters and wizards balanced abilities at Epic level (they should have been balanced all along); it's an exercise in making balanced high-level fighter abilities more plausible by making them not entirely martial in nature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 5831974, member: 3424"] That would be the "Wahoo Martial" option I mentioned. :) I'm quite familiar with the legend, and I'm afraid fighting is only a fraction of his abilities. In the first place, he's not even a natural creature: he was hatched from an egg of stone. Then, he went to study magic (72 transformations). His immortality was "earned" through a variety of methods, including thievery: he crossed out his name from the King of Death's register, and he stole and ate peaches and pills of immortality. He was effectively a demigod, and was probably powergamed and multiclassed to the hilt. :p And he was definitely not travelling with a balanced party. I'm of the view that epic destinies could have mattered more if they had been more like themes and offered characters the option to swap out class powers for epic destiny powers. That said, my previous post came from the perspective that fighter abilities could plausibly be balanced with magic spells at Heroic and maybe Paragon levels. Using epic destinies to step outside of the pure fighter concept is more a way to add plausibility to the idea that a character who started out as a normal humanoid warrior could break the laws of physics as we know them. It's not an exercise in giving fighters and wizards balanced abilities at Epic level (they should have been balanced all along); it's an exercise in making balanced high-level fighter abilities more plausible by making them not entirely martial in nature. [/QUOTE]
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