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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1261261" data-attributes="member: 1134">Yeah if rogues are always seen by opponents there fighting ability drops and if a wizard is in a dead magic zone they suck.  Whoppedy do, those situations don't happen very often, not being in a fight happens a heck of a lot.  Now sure the fighter can use his pathetic skill points and crappy class skill list and ride a horse or climb the mountain, and oh go cross class and maybe be successful in those every day tasks like building a fire.  But anytime he gets into tasks where success maters, where the CR of the non-combat encounter is apprpriate for the level the fighter minds as well play the xbox while the real classes get to work.(understand also when I say they suck out of a fight it is in comparison to other classes, and yet other classes do not suck compared to them in a fight.)And sure yes if cosmopolatin is in your game you can not suck at one skill, amybe more if you take it a few times(if that's possible).  But it aint in 3.5 its only in the FR book.  And look out maybe I'll take skill focus so at low levels I can sorta contribute.  But once I get to level 8+ I'm back to sucking again.And yes a shutup you powergamers is a really clever ending and all, but thanks to the miracles of modern technology 1 powergaming without roleplaying is a perfectly acceptable playstlye, and 2 you can somehow achieve balance of classes, powergame and roleplay at the same time.  So while yes my character personality is important to me, but the fihgter class actually being balanced in a non hack fest is important to me as well.</blockquote>

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