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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 1263235" data-attributes="member: 5171">Well, at low levels, he doesn't have that many rages per day.  At high levels, there are other ways to de-rage him (or make his rage useless), some of which I'll get to below. That's true to a point, but only to a point.  The fighter is the one who can exclusively have more completed feat-chains -- the one who can have whirlwind attack AND great cleave by sixth level, or whatever it is.  The fighter's flexibility in combat is his exclusivity.  He can be a weapon specialist, a tank, AND an archer.  He has the feats to make that possible.  Or he can be any two of those three and leave some non-fighter feats for save-boosting feats or improved initiative or other useful things.  If your campaign is one that allows someone with a very limited focus fight well in that focus in every fight, then yeah, we're in different campaigns.  If the DM never makes some fights start at close range, some fights start at long range, and some fights involve ground obstacles, then, uh, yeah, a limited focus guy shines.  Otherwise, the generalist is ultimately better, because he's good at everything, as opposed to being great at one thing and lousy at the rest.Does it smack of contrivance for an evil wizard to see that the party is heading towards his castle and try dirty tricks to get them to waste some of their spells/limited abilities beforehand?  An illusion of a dragon, for example, to get the party to cast a bunch of buff spells (which will then wear off too soon to be of use in the real fight), for example?  Or letting the party throw up their buff spells in the wizard's dimensionally anchored (everyone but him, specified as per the rules of the hallow(?) spell) lair and then tossing up a wall of force between himself and them, smiling smugly while their summoned monsters and Haste spells wither on the vine?  I'm not talking about saying, "No, you can't rest, a magical spell stops you from regaining spells."  I'm talking about good solid tactics.  I mean, if I know that the enemy archer has only three arrows, you're darn right that I'm gonna try and make him waste those arrows while I'm under full cover.Same deal with barbarian's rage.  If I've never heard of the party, that's one thing -- but most major villains in my campaign have watched the party decimate their henchmen, and so they've seen what the party can do.  Thus, they have plans to take away the party's strengths.  I mean, that's what Divination spells are for, right?  Or do you play in a happy campaign where the evil wizards are nothing but fireball machines who don't actually use intelligent tactics when faced with a party of tactically minded PCs?  If I'm the evil wizard, I'm gonna make darn sure that I attack the barbarian when he's nice and winded (assuming he's at a level when post-rage means winded).  If he outsmarts me, good for him, but the winded thing is in there for a reason.  It shouldn't NEVER come up, just like the wizard shouldn't NEVER run out of spells he needs.  If he never does, your campaign is too easy, and your fighter is getting shafted.If DM "tactics" smack of contrivance to you, I pity your DM.  You must have harried him into having nice stupid monsters who start out at the range you like and don't do any tactics that would negate your abilities.And here, I agree with you, at least in large part.  I don't necessary want to see "abilities that only the fighter gets", but I'd have no problem with more high-level feats that either a) require a ton of different feats to get, making it likely that only a fighter can get them without making every feat he takes devoted to it, or b) fighter-only feats, like weapon specialization.  For the record, I'm not a fan of weapon specialization -- unless I've got three falchions on me, I'm just one disarm attempt away from losing several of my best feats.  But I would like to see other fighter-specific or fighter-only-likely-to-get  feats, especially higher-level ones.</blockquote>

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