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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 4714989" data-attributes="member: 3400">I haven't seen it either, frankly, but then my players aren't  into the scry/buff/teleport method of adventuring either. There are, for one thing, too many PCs for that to work terribly efficiently.I do think that the 3e cleric buffs go too far. It takes time to put them into effect, that's true, but a couple rounds of buff time is sufficient to be obnoxious. But that's not part and parcel of high level play. That's a pair of spells that are too powerful and play too nicely with each other and other buff spells.</blockquote>