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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henrix" data-source="post: 4715085" data-attributes="member: 3587">Exactly my thought - that's where it begins.At level 17 almost all important fights are won when the spellcasters cause the BBEG to go bang, not when the fighter has whittled down the opposition.The fighter is just there to hold off the minions and occupy the BBEG till he fails his saves. The fighter needs the spellslingers to keep him alive through buffs, resistances, dispels, and whatnot.And it's the spellcasters who get the party to the fight - how else do they go through the lava/to the other plane/the secret hideout you can only teleport or fly to?</blockquote>