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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 4715886" data-attributes="member: 15538"><p>That depends on the level range we're talking about. For teens, sure... at which point, your AoO has taken out 10% of its entire hit points. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, Charlie. If you move, and I use a readied action to get in your way, I can guarantee I'm between you and the wizard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or the fighter beats on the dragon while the wizard uses dimension door to escape. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did not say it did. Again, he can choose to squash the mage, but he'll get in only one standard attack. A dragon attacking one person per turn as a standard action is losing the fight.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Explain to me how any of those are unbeatable gamestoppers. For a caster of any given level, there is a dragon who can credibly threaten them. Mind you, there are some dirty tricks for dealing with dragons, but none of them guarantee the wizard or anyone else will be entirely safe.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what your point was about the dragon grappling the wizard, unless you were trying to make my argument. If you don't have a fighter, that probably is it for the wizard. But a fighter, especially one with appropriate backup, can keep the heat on the dragon. Sure, the dragon can kill the wizard in two rounds... but is he willing to die to do it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 4715886, member: 15538"] That depends on the level range we're talking about. For teens, sure... at which point, your AoO has taken out 10% of its entire hit points. Sorry, Charlie. If you move, and I use a readied action to get in your way, I can guarantee I'm between you and the wizard. Or the fighter beats on the dragon while the wizard uses dimension door to escape. I did not say it did. Again, he can choose to squash the mage, but he'll get in only one standard attack. A dragon attacking one person per turn as a standard action is losing the fight. Explain to me how any of those are unbeatable gamestoppers. For a caster of any given level, there is a dragon who can credibly threaten them. Mind you, there are some dirty tricks for dealing with dragons, but none of them guarantee the wizard or anyone else will be entirely safe. I'm not sure what your point was about the dragon grappling the wizard, unless you were trying to make my argument. If you don't have a fighter, that probably is it for the wizard. But a fighter, especially one with appropriate backup, can keep the heat on the dragon. Sure, the dragon can kill the wizard in two rounds... but is he willing to die to do it? [/QUOTE]
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