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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bullgrit" data-source="post: 4716471" data-attributes="member: 31216">I didn't make a poll for this because I wasn't asking for how many people saw this problem versus how many didn't -- I wasn't looking for a tug of war match. I was asking for info/examples of the problem -- I was looking to understand the problem.[Edit: Oh, and I wasn't asking for people's opinions, I was asking for anecdotes and examples. So you can still pipe up with that.]I only went back and counted up the "votes" because when Lord Zardoz said, "...for every 18 or 23 people who say the problem has come up for them and regularly poses difficulties, there will be 3 or 4 for whom the problem has never come up." That statement was demonstrably incorrect, right in this thread, and I felt it unfair -- it seemed to suggest that those who hadn't seen the problem were a very small minority, and could be discounted.I mean, 19 to 13 is very far from 20-4. And if you consider that I was specifically asking for people to tell me about the problem -- basically inviting those players who have seen the problem to post their experience -- it is no surprise that there's more people here saying they've seen it. I was directly asking for people to come in here and say they have seen the problem. I'm surprised the ratio wasn't much higher -- it could have been 20-0, and it wouldn't reflect any real ratio of seen/not seen.Plus, it always annoys me when someone gives numbers for something based solely on their own biased feel. I'm a data geek -- I like hard data. Feel and bias just grates my nerves. 86.3% of ENWorld posters will state something as fact without any real evidence outside their own belief or desire for it to be true. ;-)Bullgrit</blockquote>

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