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<blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 4717171" data-attributes="member: 20239">Yep. That was a mistake.It wasn't my character, so I'm not crystal clear on all the details, but I believe the Wizard had either feats or PrC features that enhanced the undead he created. So, yes, the base Animate Dead spell only gives the Gray Render a slight (+1) bump to his attack rolls due to +2 Str and a slight bump to HP (~10 by my quick calculations). These zombies were considerably better than the base spell. On the other hand, even the base Gray Render zombie is large and has reach plus a sizeable bonus to grapple checks in addition to DR, some immunities and darkvision.Perhaps he was more inefficient at dealing out damage, but that's part of my point. My increased efficiency at dealing damage didn't really make that much difference to the party as a whole. My job wasn't really to dish out damage because the other characters in the party (like the Rogue and the casters) were well ahead of me in ability to do that. My job was to stand in the front line, provide a flank for the Rogue and give the casters room to cast their spells by soaking hits from the opponents. In that role, the zombie(s) were simply better than I was.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ourph, post: 4717171, member: 20239"] Yep. That was a mistake. It wasn't my character, so I'm not crystal clear on all the details, but I believe the Wizard had either feats or PrC features that enhanced the undead he created. So, yes, the base [i]Animate Dead[/i] spell only gives the Gray Render a slight (+1) bump to his attack rolls due to +2 Str and a slight bump to HP (~10 by my quick calculations). These zombies were considerably better than the base spell. On the other hand, even the base Gray Render zombie is large and has reach plus a sizeable bonus to grapple checks in addition to DR, some immunities and darkvision. Perhaps he was more inefficient at dealing out damage, but that's part of my point. My increased efficiency at dealing damage didn't really make that much difference to the party as a whole. My job wasn't really to dish out damage because the other characters in the party (like the Rogue and the casters) were well ahead of me in ability to do that. My job was to stand in the front line, provide a flank for the Rogue and give the casters room to cast their spells by soaking hits from the opponents. In that role, the zombie(s) were simply better than I was. [/QUOTE]

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