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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 4725233" data-attributes="member: 53980">This seems strange to me as I recall a rather brutal fight in which our party was ambushed by a solo lich (this was 3.5, so all I mean by solo is that he didn't have any allies to help).  Since it was an ambush (we had apparently tripped an alarm spell earlier in the lair) he was prebuffed with several defensive spells including Invisibility and Fly.  When we showed up, he began summoning things (summoning doesn't break invisibility).  Despite his casting, our melee couldn't make their Listen checks to pinpoint his position, so they each picked a square and prayed (which was quite ineffective since the lich was flying at the time).  Fortunately, I (the cleric) had memorized See Invisibility, which I promptly cast on the Fighter.  The lich (who made his spellcraft check) countered by centering a Stinking Cloud (or one of those spells, I always get them mixed up- it was the one that nauseates) on himself (since liches are undead, the cloud didn't effect him).  This made our melee effectively useless for 90% of the remaining battle.  We did manage to finally beat him when either I or the wizard hit him with some kind of undead nerfing spell (it might have been Hold Undead but I think it was somethng out of the Spell Compendium) and the lich fumbled it's save.  A dispel took care of the summoned minions and we managed to nickle and dime the lich down before the nerf broke, but before that failed save we were certain that we were headed for a TPK.  He never once used his paralyzing touch, though his immunities and DR were certainly an issue.Maybe our DM was just feeling cruel, but in my experience, every time we faced a lich in 3.5 (and this is across several different DMs) we got our butts kicked (forced to retreat, TPK, or lucky victory).</blockquote>

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