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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jmartkdr2" data-source="post: 8049649" data-attributes="member: 7017304">Ya know, if you didn't feel like you needed a good number for constitution, it'd be a lot easier to justify putting your second-best number into charisma. Then you're at least halfway to a leader-fighter. And a 12 Con probably is enough on a d10 hit die class for all but the most challenging campaigns. The other half if making more leadership-based maneuvers/feats/features so you can go all in on that or have more ways to dip into it.</blockquote>