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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8050180" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It absolutely does not. That's bizarre. Foppish is about how you dress and act, and has nothing to do with skill or charisma. You can be a massive fop and incredibly skilled and charismatic. What is it you think foppish means?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think the difference is as small as you're suggesting, but that illustrates another problem with 5E, that being that investing in a skill or making something a priority for your character can often be undermined by the mighty d20. The problem then become that the Bard with +7 skill fails, and the Fighter with +4 fails, but the Barbarian with a grand total of -1 succeeds. Which is funny the first time but not the twentieth time, let alone the five-hundredth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have no idea what you think you're saying here. These two sentences barely make any sense in English. My point is that by default D&D doesn't have any rules support for thing like the fact that a character is familiar with a mileux or kind of person. That's up to the DM. Whereas many other games have either more formal support for it (Etiquette skills in Shadowrun, for example) or have a narrative-based design which naturally includes it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I totally agree <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Wizard is basically just a Loremaster Bard who has forgotten his roots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8050180, member: 18"] It absolutely does not. That's bizarre. Foppish is about how you dress and act, and has nothing to do with skill or charisma. You can be a massive fop and incredibly skilled and charismatic. What is it you think foppish means? I don't think the difference is as small as you're suggesting, but that illustrates another problem with 5E, that being that investing in a skill or making something a priority for your character can often be undermined by the mighty d20. The problem then become that the Bard with +7 skill fails, and the Fighter with +4 fails, but the Barbarian with a grand total of -1 succeeds. Which is funny the first time but not the twentieth time, let alone the five-hundredth. I have no idea what you think you're saying here. These two sentences barely make any sense in English. My point is that by default D&D doesn't have any rules support for thing like the fact that a character is familiar with a mileux or kind of person. That's up to the DM. Whereas many other games have either more formal support for it (Etiquette skills in Shadowrun, for example) or have a narrative-based design which naturally includes it. I totally agree :) Wizard is basically just a Loremaster Bard who has forgotten his roots. [/QUOTE]
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