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<blockquote data-quote="The Blow Leprechaun" data-source="post: 3586583" data-attributes="member: 52540"><p>Yeah, I just got done an adventure at level 7 where, without the barbarian, we'd all have died about a zillion times over. Most fights pretty much involved the three of us keeping one monster busy while she killed the other one, and us hoping to stay alive long enough for her to get done and come save us.</p><p></p><p>Course we didn't have an arcane caster, but you do what you do.</p><p></p><p>Polymorph is a 4th level spell. If your Illusionist is 6th level, s/he shouldn't be able to cast it. Also, I don't know if this is RAW, but I believe when you polymorph/wild shape/whatever into a creature with natural attacks, you should be considered non-proficient with those attacks (the monster is proficient with them presumably from having them their whole life).</p><p></p><p>What kind of dinosaur is your Druid becoming? Druids can't wildshape into a Large creature til 8th level and Huge not til 15th. I don't think an enlarge person buff can change this (as magical size changes do not stack with each other). Most dinosaurs have pretty crappy AC, too. The druid does not get benefits from their armor (or any of their equipment, including stuff that gives bonuses) while wildshaped. Futhermore, the druid must be familiar with a creature to wild shape into it and it's pretty sketchy to assume someone's familiar with dinosaurs.</p><p></p><p>I don't know. It sounds more to me like your DM isn't reading up on these abilities and is just letting his spellcasters run wild on you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Blow Leprechaun, post: 3586583, member: 52540"] Yeah, I just got done an adventure at level 7 where, without the barbarian, we'd all have died about a zillion times over. Most fights pretty much involved the three of us keeping one monster busy while she killed the other one, and us hoping to stay alive long enough for her to get done and come save us. Course we didn't have an arcane caster, but you do what you do. Polymorph is a 4th level spell. If your Illusionist is 6th level, s/he shouldn't be able to cast it. Also, I don't know if this is RAW, but I believe when you polymorph/wild shape/whatever into a creature with natural attacks, you should be considered non-proficient with those attacks (the monster is proficient with them presumably from having them their whole life). What kind of dinosaur is your Druid becoming? Druids can't wildshape into a Large creature til 8th level and Huge not til 15th. I don't think an enlarge person buff can change this (as magical size changes do not stack with each other). Most dinosaurs have pretty crappy AC, too. The druid does not get benefits from their armor (or any of their equipment, including stuff that gives bonuses) while wildshaped. Futhermore, the druid must be familiar with a creature to wild shape into it and it's pretty sketchy to assume someone's familiar with dinosaurs. I don't know. It sounds more to me like your DM isn't reading up on these abilities and is just letting his spellcasters run wild on you. [/QUOTE]
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