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<blockquote data-quote="gabrion" data-source="post: 2217002" data-attributes="member: 30779">Well I originally posted the Iajutsu Master idea because I was really reaching to think of a way for a fighter to win, but people really think this would be a challenge if the Wizard wins initiative?&nbsp; I don't think anyone has brought up the Time Stop+MDJ+Reverse Gravity+Gate yet.&nbsp; No saving throws involved and the fighter looses all of his magical items and is sent to the plane of your choice.&nbsp; Lots of options and there really is no reason the fighter should be able to prevent this.Honestly people, if you think a 30th lvl wizard winning initiative doesn't mean death for his enemy in a one on one fight, then you need to play a high level wizard some time.Edit: Oops, I should have said there are no saves for the reverse gravity+gate thing, MDJ I think the fighter will get some will saves for his items.&nbsp; Good luck with that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gabrion, post: 2217002, member: 30779"] Well I originally posted the Iajutsu Master idea because I was really reaching to think of a way for a fighter to win, but people really think this would be a challenge if the Wizard wins initiative? I don't think anyone has brought up the Time Stop+MDJ+Reverse Gravity+Gate yet. No saving throws involved and the fighter looses all of his magical items and is sent to the plane of your choice. Lots of options and there really is no reason the fighter should be able to prevent this. Honestly people, if you think a 30th lvl wizard winning initiative doesn't mean death for his enemy in a one on one fight, then you need to play a high level wizard some time. Edit: Oops, I should have said there are no saves for the reverse gravity+gate thing, MDJ I think the fighter will get some will saves for his items. Good luck with that. [/QUOTE]

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