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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cyclone_Joker" data-source="post: 6186896" data-attributes="member: 6750006">Planar Binding or Summon X say "No, not really."Only if the wizard is both too stupid to divine, to take Uncanny Forethough, and to be prepared in case of an attack.Nope. A well-made CoDZilla is never vulnerable is played well, much less a wizard.First off, "Blindsense" isn't "smell," but, more importantly, spectral hand>blindsense.Artificers, Warlocks, and NPC magewrights or adepts make it simple.Cool. And do these opponents have Detect Invisibility always up?If the marauders are level eight wizards, what the hell are they doing as marauders? They could make much more money as... almost anything, really.Any mage who is not a murderhobo or a professional mage is stupid. And, regardless, I'd love to know how these marauders could afford the scroll of permanency. And why they'd use it rather than, you know, sell it and all other loot that was in the stash they found it in and retire.  It means the fighter needs teamwork. Not the wizard.NPC WBL is significantly less than PC WBL. Plus, the fighter still gets a full attack in him for free.EDIT:Never, because the mage have protections against such things and probably won't allow itself to be hit anyways.Because they're easy to hit.You bounce off my touch AC, blinking, mirror image, or other miss chance. Or you run into my immunity through one of many spells or an item I bought. Or I use my Diamond Mind item to automatically pass the save.No, you're coddled, as you've never seen a mage try before.</blockquote>

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