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<blockquote data-quote="Cyclone_Joker" data-source="post: 6188154" data-attributes="member: 6750006"><p>Nope. Wizards are learned, Sorcerers are dragony.</p><p>Check SBG</p><p>Obviously they didn't, given how a basic arcane education teaches me all I need to know about magical creatures.</p><p>...Really? You're going down this road?</p><p>Yep. Because I prepare good spells.</p><p>Contact Other Plane. Use every single slot save for your "OH <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />" buttons.</p><p>Cry more.</p><p>... Dammit, I really need a :rofl: smiley.</p><p>Thank you. I didn't think the idea of "rules" was so complicated.</p><p>Then you're not using enough of them.</p><p>Because nothing was defined. Therefore, "unreasonable" is meaningless from a mechanical perspective.</p><p>You're joking, right? "Clear idea" and "Study" are both trivially easy with divination.</p><p>...Are you trying to, like, pull a satire about rabid anti-optimizers? 'Cuz that's all I'm getting from your post.</p><p></p><p>Melee isn't hurting for damage. What melee needs is the ability to actually do something.</p><p>Tome of Battle and replacing all the casters with list caster versions. Suddenly, the "Cleric" is now a miraculous healer, not a CoDZilla, necromancers are actually capable of having hordes of the dead rather than using outsiders, and "evokers" have a purpose. Oh, and Spirit Shaman is usable. When you add in Incarnum, Psionics, ToM, and so on, everything actually works out relatively well, and you mostly avoid the problems of immortal, world-ruling god kings until level fourteen or so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyclone_Joker, post: 6188154, member: 6750006"] Nope. Wizards are learned, Sorcerers are dragony. Check SBG Obviously they didn't, given how a basic arcane education teaches me all I need to know about magical creatures. ...Really? You're going down this road? Yep. Because I prepare good spells. Contact Other Plane. Use every single slot save for your "OH :):):):)" buttons. Cry more. ... Dammit, I really need a :rofl: smiley. Thank you. I didn't think the idea of "rules" was so complicated. Then you're not using enough of them. Because nothing was defined. Therefore, "unreasonable" is meaningless from a mechanical perspective. You're joking, right? "Clear idea" and "Study" are both trivially easy with divination. ...Are you trying to, like, pull a satire about rabid anti-optimizers? 'Cuz that's all I'm getting from your post. Melee isn't hurting for damage. What melee needs is the ability to actually do something. Tome of Battle and replacing all the casters with list caster versions. Suddenly, the "Cleric" is now a miraculous healer, not a CoDZilla, necromancers are actually capable of having hordes of the dead rather than using outsiders, and "evokers" have a purpose. Oh, and Spirit Shaman is usable. When you add in Incarnum, Psionics, ToM, and so on, everything actually works out relatively well, and you mostly avoid the problems of immortal, world-ruling god kings until level fourteen or so. [/QUOTE]
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