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Message: <blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6190906" data-attributes="member: 6681948">I think you vastly underestimate what it would take to remove your scent and keep it removed for any reasonable period of time.  As humans, with a sense of smell that is as or less potent than BatSight, it's easy for us to underestimate that.  The workings of Prestidigitation are also very undefined.  We know a lot of things it can do, and a bunch it can't.  But what do we do to get those things to happen?  Given it's novice learning, I'd suggest it takes verbal and somatic components, plus a standard action, to make prestidigitation create a magical effect. In our culture.  Is the same true of Lizardfolk?  In 1825, no one thought anything of a horse leaving his business on Main Street.  Maybe the Lizardfolk response to "Gotta take a dump" is "Me too" as his tail rises up, rather than a hustle off to a privy.  And why is that Lizardfolk rushing away from the privy to take a dump?I know what we're disputing - the spell description provides no indication of how the spell assesses the invisible person as having "attacked".  Yes, it's a spell - a conjuration spell.  It's not a quasi-real illusion, nor is it an Evoked force effect.  "Each conjuration spell belongs to one of five subschools. Conjurations bring manifestations of objects, creatures, or some form of energy to you (the summoning subschool), actually transport creatures from another plane of existence to your plane (calling), heal (healing), transport creatures or objects over great distances (teleportation), or create objects or effects on the spot (creation). Creatures you conjure usually, but not always, obey your commands."Is it a creature?  Yes, the spell says so.  Does the spell say it obeys your commands?  No.  It says one person, and one only, may ride it - you or the person you designate in casting. Would you like to provide some precedents for Conjuration (Creation) spells that create things over which you have long-term control?  Many create something Instantaneously, which the rules indicate no longer rely on magic in any way for their existence.Oh, look, Invisibility is also dismissable - can you decide to make a few coins visible, just for a moment, so you can secretly bribe someone, or does "dismissable" mean "can end the spell before its full duration expires"?  I suggest the latter.  Prestidigitation is not dismissable, and you control its effects throughout the spell, so I do not see the connection between "dismissable" and "remains under caster control" you seem to draw.That's very different from being able to compute the number of dead orcs equating to a single casting of a specific spell.It appears I will be waiting much longer.  The poser of the question asks if she has washed her scent away.  She also notes she has two other dogs for whom this has never been an issue.  The response from the expert suggests a lot of possibilities, none of which involve the dog no longer recognizing the scent of the individual.While we seem to have drifted far from the original topic, perhaps it's not as far as it may seem at first glance.  We're discussing three spell interpretation questions, as I see it:(a)   Can Prestidigitation effectively alter or mask scent, making a person either disguised or invisible to creatures who sense by smell?(b)   Will Invisibility be removed if the person possesses a target (or otherwise launches an attack) from a source outside their body?(c)   Does the wizard retain the ability to command a Phantom Steed conjured for a rider other than himself?All of your arguments favour the response which provides the greatest power and flexibility for the Wizard.  So did CJ's.  So, in my experience, do the interpretations of most people who complain that wizards are overpowered.</blockquote>

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