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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6193236" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I agree that they did as well.  However, I should clarify my position to be:1 - The PF Ranger that has built his Ranger with the favored enemies of Dragons, Reptilians, favored terrain of swamp, and Archery, has greater parity with the Batman Wizard in this specific contrived scenario.  He is specialized for this scenario and thus should be extremely potent for it.  Further, spell advancement (spellcasting again) and PF specific spells (spellcasting again) carry a decent bit of the load in the infiltration portion to make this scenario doable.  All of that being said, while his task resolution, contest bonuses, and synergy are enormous for this specific task, the effort would still involve a significant amount of engagement with the resolution mechanics and thus the chance for significant complication from that mechanical resolution (which I think he can probably handle).  (A) The Wizard still has limited engagement of resolution mechanics (most is just fiat by way of strategic spell-use and deployment of "this will happen" effects) to do the trick and (B) the Batman Wizard outclasses the Ranger in any other number of devised scenarios that are outside of this Ranger build's "sweet spot."2 - None of this really helps the poor Fighter out who is still pretty much exclusively "point at bad guys and mash fight buttan."  He's better than the 3.x version, but he flat out doesn't have the requisite fiat resources to deploy nor the non-combat task resolution bonuses to pull off this job (or really any other that doesn't involve surviving HP ablation - unless he just tries to brunt force the lizardman tribe - and smashing doors/chests/bad guys...of which he is clearly above average at).</blockquote>

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