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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6194123" data-attributes="member: 17106">I imagine he's been playing D&D for the past few years.Where would you get that idea? You said they weren't balanced. They are. That's fact, and has nothing to do with your or my opinion. It simply means that they were written by game designers who stated they went through some sort of process to balance them.Whether either of us is happy with the results is their own personal opinion.A discrete per-time use limitation. That's pretty profound. I've detailed problems with that elsewhere at length.When we're talking about magic, it's a bad mechanical element, but one that can at least be justified. When we're talking about not magic, those limitations can no longer be explained in in-game terms and are no longer appropriate.Another profound flaw is that they're all or nothing. You either have the power/stance/grit feat or you don't. Again, that's a very basic flaw, and a contradiction to the basic nature of the d20 system (d20+DC vs modifiers).Fixing, or working with them in some way.Really irrelevant. I had the same philosophy when I was a beginner. And I still play with beginners on occasion. A lack of skill on the part of the operators does not abrogate the impetus to acquire that skill. It isn't elitist to suggest that if you want to run a game well, you need to be good at running that game. It's self-evident.I don't see what that has to do with whether skill is an essential part of the gameplay experience or not.That's also a very bizarre statement in this context. The idea of comparing the classes and trying to create some kind of equivalency is predicated on the notion that they are in direct competition. Your above statements essentially boil down to you thinking that a druid "wins" when compared to a fighter in melee. If winning is irrelevant and the goal is fun, your whole philosophy about balance becomes irrelevant. If we're just having fun, who cares if one character can do things another character can't?</blockquote>

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