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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6196743" data-attributes="member: 6696971">In the name of clarity, I'm going to throw out a quick list of things that are NOT examples of GM-force:- GM forbidding a class/race/genre element during the initial foray into character creation/campaign elaboration.- GM opening/framing a scene with a "Bang" that is not discordant with respect to a player's prior choices or PC build/archetype/backstory (the resolution mechanics must be engaged/consulted for that to occur).  For instance, a GM can frame a scene whereby "on-screen" the master thief has just successfully pilfered the precious item he/the group were looking to attain but something "off-screen" and unrelated to "master thief-dom" has occurred to complicate matters; eg his horse is being attacked by a rabid, starved pack of hyenas.  This is especially proper when the intent of the thief has not been negated (pilfer item and escape with it to locale x) by the framing of the scene (but rather, just complicated) and the resolution mechanics will then be engaged/consulted to determine the outcome.  In a system that involves conflict resolution (can thief pilfer item from y and escape with it to locale x) by way of complex, non-combat resolution framework, this is not only not "force", it is mandate for functional play.  Conversely, if the GM unilaterally (without consulting the resolution mechanics) frames the scene as "the master thief is a failure at pilfering the object" on-screen, that would be GM-force.- GM saying "yes" and/or allowing players to circumvent mechanical resolution where there is little to nothing at stake, no driving conflict at hand, and the GM wants to push the game toward the conflict; eg "yes, you make it through the gate with little harassment from the watch, and you arrive at (sought location) by sundown...there is fresh blood pooled on the steps...the door is ajar."Those are a few examples.</blockquote>

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