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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6198454" data-attributes="member: 22779">Just for giggles, I'm going to go back to my two hill comparison for a second.&nbsp; But, with a new example.&nbsp; Honest.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />On hill 1 we have the Tarrasque.&nbsp; CR 20 monster.&nbsp; That represents the fighter.&nbsp; On hill 2 we have an Old Red Dragon.&nbsp; Again, CR 20 monster.&nbsp; That represents the caster.Now, which hill is an easier fight?&nbsp; They should be the same, but they aren't.&nbsp; Big T is a chump because any flying group will simply stay out of range and bombard him until he drops.&nbsp; I actually watched a 17th level party flawless victory the Tarrasque because the cleric simply stood back and tapped in Heal spells every round and let the rest of the party beat the thing to death.And, note, no, the T can't just &quot;go get the caster&quot;, since he completely lacks any ranged offense.To me, this pretty much highlights the disparity.&nbsp; The ultimate fighter, which is what the Tarrasque is, can't begin to compete with a Red Dragon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6198454, member: 22779"] Just for giggles, I'm going to go back to my two hill comparison for a second. But, with a new example. Honest. :D On hill 1 we have the Tarrasque. CR 20 monster. That represents the fighter. On hill 2 we have an Old Red Dragon. Again, CR 20 monster. That represents the caster. Now, which hill is an easier fight? They should be the same, but they aren't. Big T is a chump because any flying group will simply stay out of range and bombard him until he drops. I actually watched a 17th level party flawless victory the Tarrasque because the cleric simply stood back and tapped in Heal spells every round and let the rest of the party beat the thing to death. And, note, no, the T can't just "go get the caster", since he completely lacks any ranged offense. To me, this pretty much highlights the disparity. The ultimate fighter, which is what the Tarrasque is, can't begin to compete with a Red Dragon. [/QUOTE]

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