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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6199475" data-attributes="member: 29398">Regarding the king and his vastly-overworked chamberlain:&nbsp;[MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] talks (in one of the very long posts a page or so back) about the DM framing the scene with the chamberlain.&nbsp; To me, &quot;framing&quot; implies the DM had some sort of advance warning the scene was coming, and-or that it is actually part of her planned plot, and-or that the DM had any choice in the matter, and thus the scene could be set up in advance e.g. reactions determined, DCs pre-set for various things, even stats rolled for key people, etc.&nbsp; But what if there is no warning?&nbsp; What if on a whim the party decides while in town &quot;Hey, let's drop by the palace and see how ol' Kingy's getting on&quot;, and the next thing the DM hears is &quot;We're heading for the palace!&quot;.&nbsp; The DM can't really be blamed for what happens next, can she?Ditto for any non-adventure situation where the players-in-character get to decide what they (will try to) do next.Lan-&quot;do chamberlains get paid for overtime in this country?&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 6199475, member: 29398"] Regarding the king and his vastly-overworked chamberlain: [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] talks (in one of the very long posts a page or so back) about the DM framing the scene with the chamberlain. To me, "framing" implies the DM had some sort of advance warning the scene was coming, and-or that it is actually part of her planned plot, and-or that the DM had any choice in the matter, and thus the scene could be set up in advance e.g. reactions determined, DCs pre-set for various things, even stats rolled for key people, etc. But what if there is no warning? What if on a whim the party decides while in town "Hey, let's drop by the palace and see how ol' Kingy's getting on", and the next thing the DM hears is "We're heading for the palace!". The DM can't really be blamed for what happens next, can she? Ditto for any non-adventure situation where the players-in-character get to decide what they (will try to) do next. Lan-"do chamberlains get paid for overtime in this country?"-efan [/QUOTE]

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