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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6201491" data-attributes="member: 6678119">Bolded for emphasis.  In  @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a> 's post he clearly defines that he prefers to play a game where players face appropriate challenges, which would then mean that even though the chamberlain might have his own stats, said stats are created based on what the players can do (or likely will be able to do) at the time of engagement if the encounter is meant to be meaningful.The players have an obligation to be thoughtful of the mechanics as well.  Wanting to roll up 1st level characters to kill an ancient red dragon is not going to work under most rules.  In the 3.5 rules, for example, an <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#redDragon" target="_blank">ancient red dragon</a> has a CR of 23 which is way too high for a party of 1st level characters to go after.  If the encounter's challenge rating is roughly known then it's at the very least questionable to have any expectation to engage it meaningfully with such weak characters, and since that encounter would certainly not be meaningful or enjoyable because the outcome is assured then it follows that such a scene won't even be an option in the first place.</blockquote>