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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 6201714" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>So you are ok with getting a noble djinn as long as the wizard casts, on average, a hundred Gates?</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the wizard is, like most PCs, a native of the Material Plane and on it at the time of the Gate, he does not have the Extraplanar subtype and can't be called through.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I do believe calling him to a place where he cannot leave for a duration counts as capturing. At least in the eyes of the law, it is.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00">Again, if you went and held your neighbor's daughter against her will for one minute, would you be charged with having captured a child?</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>You know what is also relevant text? </p><p><span style="color: #FFFFFF"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FFFFFF"></span>[h=6]<u><span style="color: #FFFFFF">Planar Travel</span></u>[/h]<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: #FFFFFF"><u>As a mode of planar travel</u>, a gate spell functions much like a </span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/planeShift.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: #FFFFFF">plane shift</span></a><span style="color: #FFFFFF"> spell, except that the gate opens precisely at the point you desire (a creation effect). <u>Deities and other beings who rule a planar realm can prevent a gate from opening in their presence or personal demesnes if they so desire</u>.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: #FFFFFF"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: #FFFFFF"></span><span style="color: #00FF00">The text you quoted is for planar travel, not calling creatures. That is a pretty big difference, don't you think?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: #00FF00"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: #00FF00"></span></span></span></p><p>Why can I not use Gate to try and capture a noble djinn? A noble djinn is not a deity or unique being, after all. (Unless we are talking about the long contained, often imitated, never duplicated <span style="color: #00FFFF">GENIE OF THE LAMP</span>!)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can command it for the short term, which granting Wishes. It does not take very long to issue three wishes and have them granted. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Bolded sections are the relevant quotes and make me feel secure in thinking wish granting free of charge is what the spell is going to get me.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you will check out the text of the spell, service is defined.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 6201714, member: 85158"] So you are ok with getting a noble djinn as long as the wizard casts, on average, a hundred Gates? If the wizard is, like most PCs, a native of the Material Plane and on it at the time of the Gate, he does not have the Extraplanar subtype and can't be called through. I do believe calling him to a place where he cannot leave for a duration counts as capturing. At least in the eyes of the law, it is. [COLOR=#00ff00]Again, if you went and held your neighbor's daughter against her will for one minute, would you be charged with having captured a child?[/COLOR] You know what is also relevant text? [COLOR=#FFFFFF] [/COLOR][h=6][U][COLOR=#FFFFFF]Planar Travel[/COLOR][/U][/h][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#FFFFFF][U]As a mode of planar travel[/U], a gate spell functions much like a [/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/planeShift.htm"][COLOR=#FFFFFF]plane shift[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#FFFFFF] spell, except that the gate opens precisely at the point you desire (a creation effect). [U]Deities and other beings who rule a planar realm can prevent a gate from opening in their presence or personal demesnes if they so desire[/U]. [/COLOR][COLOR=#00FF00]The text you quoted is for planar travel, not calling creatures. That is a pretty big difference, don't you think? [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] Why can I not use Gate to try and capture a noble djinn? A noble djinn is not a deity or unique being, after all. (Unless we are talking about the long contained, often imitated, never duplicated [COLOR=#00FFFF]GENIE OF THE LAMP[/COLOR]!) You can command it for the short term, which granting Wishes. It does not take very long to issue three wishes and have them granted. Bolded sections are the relevant quotes and make me feel secure in thinking wish granting free of charge is what the spell is going to get me. Incidentally, If you will check out the text of the spell, service is defined. [/QUOTE]
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