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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6206569" data-attributes="member: 22779">Well, I was more commenting on the part that a selfish creature will never do anything for nothing.Consistent with their values and goals, in your view, you mean.  After all, you've now imposed your own interpretation on their values and goals.  But, it's not really something for nothing.  Not in that sense.  The player cast the spell and expects to get the results from the spell.  When I cast fireball, is it unreasonable to expect to do d6/level damage?  Planar Binding spells do exactly what they say - give wizards the ability to gain a powerful ally who will do something for them.  Unless, of course, the DM has now decided that the spell doesn't actually do that and chooses to interpret things in a very specific way.  Isn't it funny that every PC in the world has time issues, so, casters never have time to rest and gain spells (that's directly from N'Raac btw, that was his counter to why caster parties are weaker), yet every NPC in the world has unlimited time and nothing going on that is being disturbed by being held prisoner by some uppity wizard.  You did, after all, comment that the immortal being wouldn't be bothered by being held up, so, the offer of release isn't sufficient of an incentive to gain some action from the bound creature.  Funny thing is, I honestly think you don't see it.  Look at every single example in this or any other thread like it.  Every single time this comes up, it's exactly the same.  There is no imbalance because "good DM's" make good rulings and limit caster power.</blockquote>

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