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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6206578" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>No one is saying that you realize. Not one person in this thread has said we must always be able to get past the chamberlain. That's entirely your own fabrication. Actually, you're the one who has claimed that there must be situations where it is impossible to get past the Chamberlain, regardless of the actions of the PC's. No matter what they do, they cannot pass.</p><p></p><p>Everyone here has no problems with failing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You skipped the part where that was a Still, Silent Charm Person. So, where is the suspicion? And, of course, the Chamberlain, after the spell ends, immediately recognizes exactly what has happened to him, knows that it's magic and reacts in the most negative way possible. I mean, through fairly easy play, you could make it sound like it was the Chamberlain's idea all along and he might not even know he was influenced. That is what Bluff skills are for after all. </p><p></p><p>But, again, because your players know exactly how you will react if they attempt something like this, they never actually try. Which does work well for limiting caster power.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>BINGO! Right there we have a winner. How can this not be spun as anything other than choosing the absolute most penalizing interpretation you possibly could? The player jumps through every hoop to bind a Glabrezu and it turns out that this one, out of the infinite number of Glabrezu in the Abyss, just happened to have granted a wish within the last 30 days.</p><p></p><p>Would you actually do that in a game?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet, for some funny reason, your "most consistent" rulings are always against the players. Never once, in this entire thread, have you posted a single example where things went <em>for</em> the players. Every decision, every interpretation, every single example is 100% against the players. You'd think that consistent rulings would favor the players at least once in a while. I mean, "This Glabrezu can't help you, he granted a wish 27 days ago" is about as tortuous an interpretation as you can get.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6206578, member: 22779"] No one is saying that you realize. Not one person in this thread has said we must always be able to get past the chamberlain. That's entirely your own fabrication. Actually, you're the one who has claimed that there must be situations where it is impossible to get past the Chamberlain, regardless of the actions of the PC's. No matter what they do, they cannot pass. Everyone here has no problems with failing. You skipped the part where that was a Still, Silent Charm Person. So, where is the suspicion? And, of course, the Chamberlain, after the spell ends, immediately recognizes exactly what has happened to him, knows that it's magic and reacts in the most negative way possible. I mean, through fairly easy play, you could make it sound like it was the Chamberlain's idea all along and he might not even know he was influenced. That is what Bluff skills are for after all. But, again, because your players know exactly how you will react if they attempt something like this, they never actually try. Which does work well for limiting caster power. BINGO! Right there we have a winner. How can this not be spun as anything other than choosing the absolute most penalizing interpretation you possibly could? The player jumps through every hoop to bind a Glabrezu and it turns out that this one, out of the infinite number of Glabrezu in the Abyss, just happened to have granted a wish within the last 30 days. Would you actually do that in a game? Yet, for some funny reason, your "most consistent" rulings are always against the players. Never once, in this entire thread, have you posted a single example where things went [i]for[/i] the players. Every decision, every interpretation, every single example is 100% against the players. You'd think that consistent rulings would favor the players at least once in a while. I mean, "This Glabrezu can't help you, he granted a wish 27 days ago" is about as tortuous an interpretation as you can get. [/QUOTE]
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