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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6208725" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Potion. Of. Heroism. (not a permanent gain, but neither is the binding of a demon)</p><p></p><p>Or, obtain some sort of charming/beguilement device and use it to get a higher level Fighter to take the van for you. Just like the demon example, it's a different entity doing the heavy lifting but it's still getting done because of you, and better than you yourself can do it.</p><p></p><p>Probably not, but as noted there's ways to get access to that feat via a secondary source, just like the wizard uses a demon to get a wish.</p><p></p><p>Re: two similar wizards with different spells</p><p>Close enough for me. Same degree of closeness as two fighters entering a battle where one pulls out a battleaxe and the other a longsword because in each case it's their preferred weapon to use (assume equal enchantments, if any, on the weapons).</p><p></p><p>Or let's take two 1e Fighters*. Both are human, same level, strength, h.p., weapon proficiencies, etc. - but their fighting styles and out-of-combat personality mark them as very different. One is a down-to-earth sort, using wise tactics in combat when he can (except when the love of his life (also in the party) is in danger, he then defends her first) and providing soft-spoken practical advice and suggestions when out of combat. The other is a self-styled "guv'nor of givin 'er", wading in to battle face first at any opportunity with his only tactic being "kill it before it kills me" while being a somewhat loud, ornery and definitely foul-mouthed - but still amusing - sort out of combat. You don't need mechanics to play the difference, nor to notice it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>* - the personalities etc. here are two of my actual characters. In actual current play they are widely separated in level and have slightly different stats and weapon prof's; both are Human. For these purposes I'm just imagning them as if they were mechanically the same.</p><p></p><p>Lan-"one of the above"-efan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 6208725, member: 29398"] Potion. Of. Heroism. (not a permanent gain, but neither is the binding of a demon) Or, obtain some sort of charming/beguilement device and use it to get a higher level Fighter to take the van for you. Just like the demon example, it's a different entity doing the heavy lifting but it's still getting done because of you, and better than you yourself can do it. Probably not, but as noted there's ways to get access to that feat via a secondary source, just like the wizard uses a demon to get a wish. Re: two similar wizards with different spells Close enough for me. Same degree of closeness as two fighters entering a battle where one pulls out a battleaxe and the other a longsword because in each case it's their preferred weapon to use (assume equal enchantments, if any, on the weapons). Or let's take two 1e Fighters*. Both are human, same level, strength, h.p., weapon proficiencies, etc. - but their fighting styles and out-of-combat personality mark them as very different. One is a down-to-earth sort, using wise tactics in combat when he can (except when the love of his life (also in the party) is in danger, he then defends her first) and providing soft-spoken practical advice and suggestions when out of combat. The other is a self-styled "guv'nor of givin 'er", wading in to battle face first at any opportunity with his only tactic being "kill it before it kills me" while being a somewhat loud, ornery and definitely foul-mouthed - but still amusing - sort out of combat. You don't need mechanics to play the difference, nor to notice it. :) * - the personalities etc. here are two of my actual characters. In actual current play they are widely separated in level and have slightly different stats and weapon prof's; both are Human. For these purposes I'm just imagning them as if they were mechanically the same. Lan-"one of the above"-efan [/QUOTE]
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