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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6211082" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Mate, I don't think you need to "let it go", but I think the area you're treading would be better served:A)  As another threadB)  One that focuses very specifically on an issue with respect to what you have here.  For instance.  I think a conversation discussing 4e, 13th Age, MHRP, and Dungeon Worlds (pick 2 or 3 of those)default playstyle/creative agenda, their respective GMing advice and their respective techniques to propogate the default playstale and GMing advice would probably be a very functional and interesting thread.  I think there we could probably get "under the hood" and discuss the differences and "what they mean."  You just played a bout of 13th Age.  I've ran 2 one-offs and have read the book in full and I'm a firm advocate of both systems but there are distinctions to be made.  I suspect that there would be enough folks to generate interesting commentary there.As I posted above, I've just posted way, way, way too many words on these subjects and I know I'm not alone in that.  And our experiences are so deeply different that its difficult to even start at a focused base, let alone cover the nuance (of which we've probably both posted about over and over).  I'm in awe of @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a> 's ability and willingness to continuously generate commentary or reframe things he's written prior.  I just can't do it.  I start to facepalm, cost-benifit analysis and eventually I glaze over with disinterest (given your words, I suspect you're of the same position just cutting the other way).As to what the game's default plays like.  All I can say is that I've run both of those afformentioned systems tons (and plenty others like them).  With this group.  The 3 players that I have (who aren't internet RPG bloggy people) all have commented on how similar (with some certain nuance, most specifically the tactical crunch) the 3 games are as manifested at my table.</blockquote>

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