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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6235962" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>To me, the answer is “it depends”. Real kings had armies, castles and food tasters, and that was pretty well known. In the D&D world, it seems likely real kings would have spellcasters (whether wizards or clerics) or some other means of magic detection (magic items for the Royal Guard would do the trick). But it also seems likely this fact would be fairly well known.</p><p> </p><p>That doesn’t mean the spellcasters can be picked easily out of the King’s Court – that would also depend on the campaign norms. If it’s simplicity to spot the four spellcasters in 100+ people at Court, it should be just as easy to spot [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION]’s character as a spellcaster, should it not? Or is he the only caster in 50,000 years to ever think of dispensing with the star-encrusted robes and tall, pointy hat?</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>It seems to me it would be as well known as the fact the king has a food taster and a royal guard, in a game where magic is common (which is the 3e+ D&D standard, IMO).</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>It’s about as adversarial as having a Dragon resting atop the treasure horde rather than allowing the players to start shoveling loot onto the wagon train. The King knows spellcasters exist, and he doesn’t want his free will easily usurped. The GM knows the PC’s have spellcasters, and the game would lack challenge if they can make anyone or everyone holding any authority their sock puppet with a simple spell.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Does your Detect Magic miss some spells? If not, why would theirs? It seems reasonable to assume that casting a spell in the King’s Court would be viewed similarly to drawing a weapon, does it not?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Whether it is a secret depends on the campaign norms. Are there wizards? If this is the norm, any character with any knowledge would know this is typically the case. Who is the spellcaster, or the guard with the magic detection device, etc.? That may be less obvious, or it may not. Maybe it’s tradition to have four acolytes of the official state religion carry out this duty, and they are pretty obvious, or perhaps the Royal Guard are equipped with magic detecting headbands. Or maybe the court spellcasters are less obvious.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is simply your assumption, once again deciding that no GM ever acts in good faith, but instead lives only to screw you over. Funny how we don’t criticize adversarial players who assume the GM is always out to get them, and constantly waste time in efforts to screw over the GM (often and/or the other players as well).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6235962, member: 6681948"] To me, the answer is “it depends”. Real kings had armies, castles and food tasters, and that was pretty well known. In the D&D world, it seems likely real kings would have spellcasters (whether wizards or clerics) or some other means of magic detection (magic items for the Royal Guard would do the trick). But it also seems likely this fact would be fairly well known. That doesn’t mean the spellcasters can be picked easily out of the King’s Court – that would also depend on the campaign norms. If it’s simplicity to spot the four spellcasters in 100+ people at Court, it should be just as easy to spot [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION]’s character as a spellcaster, should it not? Or is he the only caster in 50,000 years to ever think of dispensing with the star-encrusted robes and tall, pointy hat? It seems to me it would be as well known as the fact the king has a food taster and a royal guard, in a game where magic is common (which is the 3e+ D&D standard, IMO). It’s about as adversarial as having a Dragon resting atop the treasure horde rather than allowing the players to start shoveling loot onto the wagon train. The King knows spellcasters exist, and he doesn’t want his free will easily usurped. The GM knows the PC’s have spellcasters, and the game would lack challenge if they can make anyone or everyone holding any authority their sock puppet with a simple spell. Does your Detect Magic miss some spells? If not, why would theirs? It seems reasonable to assume that casting a spell in the King’s Court would be viewed similarly to drawing a weapon, does it not? Whether it is a secret depends on the campaign norms. Are there wizards? If this is the norm, any character with any knowledge would know this is typically the case. Who is the spellcaster, or the guard with the magic detection device, etc.? That may be less obvious, or it may not. Maybe it’s tradition to have four acolytes of the official state religion carry out this duty, and they are pretty obvious, or perhaps the Royal Guard are equipped with magic detecting headbands. Or maybe the court spellcasters are less obvious. This is simply your assumption, once again deciding that no GM ever acts in good faith, but instead lives only to screw you over. Funny how we don’t criticize adversarial players who assume the GM is always out to get them, and constantly waste time in efforts to screw over the GM (often and/or the other players as well). [/QUOTE]
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