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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5549545" data-attributes="member: 78958">Cloudkill won't do much, actually. Not only does it move away from you at 10' per round (so the dragon wouldn't be in it very long, even if he has no room to move). It can also be dispersed in a round by a strong wind - which the dragon can easily manage in enclosed spaces with his wings. So expect to do 1 point of Con damage (2 if you're lucky) with your valuable 5th level slot (coz the dragon will pass his Fort save on a 1).Of course, you can spam 4 Cloudkills in a row, dealing an average of 5.25 Con damage all told. In fact, it's even a little more, because the dragon's Fort save decreases when it takes Con damage, but it's close enough. Let's say you deal 6 Con damage for nice, round, and optimistic number.The dragon has now lost 3 points of Fort save bonus, along with 75 HP for its 25 HD. Is that really worth all of your highest-level slots, as well as 5 standard actions?Also note that if you can cast spells underneath your Wall of Force, so can the dragon (or use his breath weapon, or a magic item, or whatever).</blockquote>