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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dark Dragon" data-source="post: 6301591" data-attributes="member: 1115">Deity SRs depend on their divine rank, according to F&P, Fierna would be a lesser deity with 6 ranks would have SR 38 indeed, Mystra would have 50.The SR increase of the PCs is part of their transcendence to higher dragon entities. On this process my epic campaign lays one of its two main foci, and each major test (being of the morale, intellect, or combat prowess type) gives them more powers. Most of these are more defensive, but some increase the offensive capabilities of the PCs. The increased SR is part of improved defensive. Still SR works just well against these spells. Disjunction is of course present in the weponry of the evil guys, both linked to traps and used as spells if needed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />This seems to be just what I was looking for <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> I got the impression that my approach (increase of class levels plus additional dragon powers) is a bit like a continuous process. Maybe I can flesh out the trancendence in a smoother way (better than the 3.5 rules). Have to get a close look at these books! Many thanks for the hint!Hmm, I'm not sure if that is so easy to realize...Do you mean by "commoner" that the PCs have all their memories, but otherwise none of their other powers and spells? So that they can only influence the evil guys by words, logic, and helpful deeds? This may work only against other low-level followers, but will not affect the higher levels in hierarchy.Well that is definitively going to happen, because Fierna's cultists defiled every place the PCs had held dear: the monastery of PC cleric of Ilmater was turned into a house of pain and lust (and the monks were either turned or became undead), the academy of one of the PC arcanists is now a place for bloody sacrifices and a source of undead creatures, all relatives and loved ones of the ftr were massacred and the paladin friend of the ftr was risen by the cult as a disguised undead and sent out to murder more paladins. The leaders of Fierna's cult look like and have the habits of their PC counterparts and did all that evil in the name of the PCs, to ruin the PCs' reputation forever. The story is more complex, but this was one goal that Fierna wanted to achieve. Simply killing the PCs would have been to easy.Fierna is not used to politics and duties of a lesser goddess (and so she is not aware of all the intrigues, networks, and alliances of other much older powers), but she is overconfident in her abilities, assuming that her status simply allows her to do as she pleases and problems simply go away if she wills it so.Her only ally, Mephistopheles, uses her more as puppet and useful pawn. He is much more intriguing and smarter in politics, and makes up a good part of Fierna's lacking sense for the behaviour of the other gods and lords of the Nine Hells. Yet he can't always get Fierna to do what he sees as most useful, and fears that Fierna may ruin everything that he has planned before. So he keeps a low profile, and tries to learn what other powers plan against Fierna. Belial has underestimated his daughter and now tries to save as much as he can from his shattered plans and network. As long as Fierna accepts him as one of the Lords of the Nine Hells, he does as she asks. But in secret he tries to develop a plan B, to come into effect as soon as Fierna is tired of him. Maybe an alliance with Asmodeus would help?Of course, Asmodeus and the Hag Countess oppose Fierna because she disturbed the old balance of power within the Nine Hells. So especially Asmodeus is keen to see Fierna removed from power, and have Belial punished for not keeping the girl under close supervision. From the good deities, Ilmater is a foe of Fierna, and he is supported by Torm, because Fierna's cultists were responsible for the death of most of Torm's clergy in Tantras. From the evil deities, Loviatar dislikes Fierna because their portfolios have some overlap. Fierna has a divine rank of 6. She still has a very close relationship with Belial (who is still Lord of the Fourth), a fact that is well known to Mephistopheles (who has plans to use Belial as a hostage, if Fierna's behaviour would get out of control). She would not admit it, but she knows that she needs counsel from Mephistopheles from time to time, and therefore would come to his aid if needed.</blockquote>

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