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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5130442" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>+Wisdom to attack is a major difference.</p><p></p><p>Inability to use Heavy Blade Opportunity is a major difference.</p><p></p><p>Given this is a Fighter feat we're talking about, you can bet your ass that the difference is intentional.</p><p></p><p>---------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>Time to look at Figurines of Wonderous Power and flanking.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>1) ARE THEY AN ALLY?</em></span></p><p></p><p>Well, are they creatures? Yes. Explicitly so.</p><p></p><p>Are they willing recipients of your powers? Yes.</p><p></p><p><strong>Figurines of Wonderous Power are allies.</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>2) ARE THEY CAPABLE OF ATTACKING?</em></span></p><p></p><p>Well, looking at their stats in the AV, I see they have attacks.</p><p></p><p><strong>Figurines of Wonderous Power are capable of attacking.</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>3) ARE THEY UNDER AN EFFECT RENDERING THEM INCAPABLE OF OPPORTUNITY ATTACKS?</em></span></p><p></p><p>Now, notice, this does not say 'Are they incapable of OAs?' The -specific- onus is that it be an -effect- that renders them such.</p><p></p><p>Now, having something present or not present in a stat block is NOT an effect. Having vulnerable 5 fire in your stat-block is not an effect. Not having resistance to fire is NOT an effect.</p><p></p><p>Similiarly, not having basic attacks is not an effect.</p><p></p><p>HOWEVER, there is a caveat.</p><p></p><p><em>Conjured creatures lack basic attacks and therefore cannot make opportunity attacks.</em></p><p></p><p>is part of the rules text for conjuring a figuring of wonderous power, and therefore -is- part of the effect that produces them.</p><p></p><p>Therefore...</p><p></p><p><strong>Figurines of Wonderous Power ARE being prevented from making opportunity attacks because of an effect.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thusly, it fails the third test for flanking eligability, and therefore, by default, FoWP <strong>cannot flank.</strong></p><p></p><p>---------------------------------</p><p></p><p>Lastly:</p><p></p><p>The power that you use to conjure a creature with FoWP does not have an attack type. Attack types are necessary to have a range, therefore any question about in range, or out of range, cannot be asked of a FoWP.</p><p></p><p>Therefore, the exemption on moveable conjurations and range cannot apply to a FoWP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5130442, member: 71571"] +Wisdom to attack is a major difference. Inability to use Heavy Blade Opportunity is a major difference. Given this is a Fighter feat we're talking about, you can bet your ass that the difference is intentional. --------------------------------------------------- Time to look at Figurines of Wonderous Power and flanking. [SIZE="3"][i]1) ARE THEY AN ALLY?[/i][/SIZE] Well, are they creatures? Yes. Explicitly so. Are they willing recipients of your powers? Yes. [b]Figurines of Wonderous Power are allies.[/b] [SIZE="3"][i]2) ARE THEY CAPABLE OF ATTACKING?[/i][/SIZE] Well, looking at their stats in the AV, I see they have attacks. [b]Figurines of Wonderous Power are capable of attacking.[/b] [SIZE="3"][i]3) ARE THEY UNDER AN EFFECT RENDERING THEM INCAPABLE OF OPPORTUNITY ATTACKS?[/i][/SIZE] Now, notice, this does not say 'Are they incapable of OAs?' The -specific- onus is that it be an -effect- that renders them such. Now, having something present or not present in a stat block is NOT an effect. Having vulnerable 5 fire in your stat-block is not an effect. Not having resistance to fire is NOT an effect. Similiarly, not having basic attacks is not an effect. HOWEVER, there is a caveat. [i]Conjured creatures lack basic attacks and therefore cannot make opportunity attacks.[/i] is part of the rules text for conjuring a figuring of wonderous power, and therefore -is- part of the effect that produces them. Therefore... [B]Figurines of Wonderous Power ARE being prevented from making opportunity attacks because of an effect.[/B] Thusly, it fails the third test for flanking eligability, and therefore, by default, FoWP [b]cannot flank.[/b] --------------------------------- Lastly: The power that you use to conjure a creature with FoWP does not have an attack type. Attack types are necessary to have a range, therefore any question about in range, or out of range, cannot be asked of a FoWP. Therefore, the exemption on moveable conjurations and range cannot apply to a FoWP. [/QUOTE]
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