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Figuring out a role for my 3.5e Cleric
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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8943331" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>LA Buyoff is a good system, but you will be behind somewhat early on as a result. The question really comes down to, what are you getting from it, and is it worth the xp? In this case, you get darkvision, minor resistances, +2 Wis, +2 Cha, and the occasional "oh this spell doesn't work because I'm not a humanoid". </p><p></p><p>Ironically, these advantages are better early in your career; later on, you can easily get magic items that increase an ability score, or provide the ability to see in the dark (not goggles of night though, they are overpriced. Continual Light on a burned-out ioun stone however is fairly cheap). Need better turning checks? Circle of Persuasion is a bargain. Need more turning attempts? Nightsticks from Libris Mortis (I think, it's been awhile).</p><p></p><p>As for Bloodlines, no. They are a trap. You have to pay up front with a mostly useless bloodline level for benefits you get later, and only the Major Bloodlines give you abilities worth noting.</p><p></p><p>If you want to be a caster cleric, and the option to start older is on the table...there's probably not much reason not to. But do remember some very important spells on your list are touch range. So you are going to need to get close to enemies to cast, and penalties to Strength can make it harder to wear armor (and harder to smack something in melee if you want to conserve spells), as well as reduce your hit points and Concentration checks.</p><p></p><p>Further, even though they attack touch AC, some of your offensive spells require a touch attack, and that is Strength-based (a minor penalty, but it's worth noting).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8943331, member: 6877472"] LA Buyoff is a good system, but you will be behind somewhat early on as a result. The question really comes down to, what are you getting from it, and is it worth the xp? In this case, you get darkvision, minor resistances, +2 Wis, +2 Cha, and the occasional "oh this spell doesn't work because I'm not a humanoid". Ironically, these advantages are better early in your career; later on, you can easily get magic items that increase an ability score, or provide the ability to see in the dark (not goggles of night though, they are overpriced. Continual Light on a burned-out ioun stone however is fairly cheap). Need better turning checks? Circle of Persuasion is a bargain. Need more turning attempts? Nightsticks from Libris Mortis (I think, it's been awhile). As for Bloodlines, no. They are a trap. You have to pay up front with a mostly useless bloodline level for benefits you get later, and only the Major Bloodlines give you abilities worth noting. If you want to be a caster cleric, and the option to start older is on the table...there's probably not much reason not to. But do remember some very important spells on your list are touch range. So you are going to need to get close to enemies to cast, and penalties to Strength can make it harder to wear armor (and harder to smack something in melee if you want to conserve spells), as well as reduce your hit points and Concentration checks. Further, even though they attack touch AC, some of your offensive spells require a touch attack, and that is Strength-based (a minor penalty, but it's worth noting). [/QUOTE]
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