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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanatos" data-source="post: 1542396" data-attributes="member: 5261">No, my logic is fine. You missed what I was saying. He specifically stated 3000 downloads and seperated them by how many times they opened the product. 3000 downloads does not equal 3000 people. It could equal more or it could equal less. Some people have many IP's attached to them. DHCP, NAT, PAT -- and combinations of those make it impossible to to even hazard a guess at how many actual people may have obtained the product, maybe one person has a copy of all 5 of his machines, maybe someone bought a copy and lost it and just downloaded another to replace the lost one, what about 1 pc shared by 5 people, etc. I am saying this is not a valid concept for trying to determine 'loss of sale'. It doesn't really give you any concrete information. It just looks darned impressive, but amounts to the same arguements the RIAA/MPAA make.Well, we aren't really talking about other software and electronic products, which sometimes allow you to have multiple installs and as long as only 1 install is being utilized, it is within the bounds of copyright.You arguement is still not as valid as you seem to think though. If it shows my IP address as having downloaded the book 3 times, yet only 1 copy is found when my hard drive is searched, I can only be prosecuted for 1 violation. Where did the other 2 go? 3000 downloads =! 3000 people =! 3000 instances of the product.Really all I am saying is, its just like the arguement the RIAA and MPAA make. It is subjective and ambigious at best and the numbers, while looking impressive, aren't necessairly so. IP Addresses only tell one segment of the story in any kind of investigation....and Ralts illegal invasion of privacy and federal computer laws violations pretty much put him in the same league with the copyright infringers in my opinon. I won't ever buy anything from him, now that I know he does things like this.</blockquote>

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