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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scott-fs" data-source="post: 1544970" data-attributes="member: 5714">As others have commented, this is a very interesting thread.  I'm coming in on it a few days late, though it has gone fairly strong.I wish I could attend GenCon as it would be a very interesting debate/seminar.  Would it be possible to have it audio recorded, and then made available online after GenCon ?  A transcript would also be very cool.At GenCon I knew there was a d20/OGL seminar that was recorded and made available on the internet.  I found the link in an mp3 playlist file I had on my computer:<a href="http://gamingreport.com/files/audio/OGLd20Session.mp3" target="_blank">http://gamingreport.com/files/audio/OGLd20Session.mp3</a>It's about 53 minutes long (almost 19Meg in size at a 48 bitrate).I'm very selective like that with my music.  I have a compulsive need to have as many mp3s as possible at the maximum bitrate (meaning 320kps), meaning a 5:23 song weighs in at 12.3 meg.  I can notice the difference in quality between a 320 and a 128.  In order to get that quality, I have to buy the cd, and extract the tracks.  Lately I've forsaken North American music for the much higher quality European progressive rock/metal bands.  As a shameless plug my favorites are: Lacuna Coil, Hammerfall, Nightwish, Stormwitch, Metalium, Rhapsody, Within Temptation.To lead this post back semi on topic, I've downloaded lots of books, most of them poor quality.  I like many others in this thread, download them to preview them.  The last product I've actually purchased was probably the Ravenloft PHB and the third module in GRR's Freeport series.  There was one book can only assume I got off Kazaa.  It was an adventure I used to kick off my recent campaign.  Funny thing was, it was an adventure the publisher had put on their website as a free download.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In general I've noticed a trend in which 80% of the product that can be downloaded comes from about 7 companies.And now to a post from the beginning of the thread which I felt I needed to respond to:Wow, what figures (and from who) did you get those from ?  Recently (with all the product flying around), you're in heaven if you manage to sell 1,000 copies over the lifetime of a product, particularly if you are small-press (non-d20 gets about half).  It's possible S&SS, Mongoose, Fantasy Flight, AEG, etc get around your figures, but I wouldn't call them "small press".  They're in the mid range.As to PDFs, I'd expect that publishers might see an average of 50-100 sales.  Some of the popular titles maybe within your 100-500 range.  Of course, I don't have any stats to give any actual figures.Unless you have actual data.  My only figures come from being a member of the GPA (Game Publishers Association) where a large number of Small-Press can be found, and the advice regarding the state of the market from the head man at Impressions Advertising (who does fullfillment for a number of d20 and non-d20 companies).</blockquote>

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