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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 1558641" data-attributes="member: 19675">Boo hoo.&nbsp; When I got into gaming, I lived in Denver.&nbsp; A couple of months later, I moved to Manhattan...Manhattan, Kansas, pop. 10,000.&nbsp; I could go to the KSU bookstore and buy the DMG, PHB, &amp; MM and Dragon Magazine.&nbsp; Anything else I wanted I had to go to Kansas City to get, and we could only make that trip 1/month.&nbsp; (Yes, barefoot over mountains through snow fighting off cyborg-demon alligators <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> )&nbsp; The only reason I played Traveller or Star Fleet Battles was because I had a buddy (named Buddy) who already had the games when he moved into town.You don't believe you're hurting the artists so its OK?&nbsp; They've already been paid enough so its OK?&nbsp; Other people already paid for it so its OK?&nbsp; How arbitrary is that?As one of my law profs would say, &quot;That doesn't even pass a sniff test.&quot;What you believe is not backed up by empirical evidence.&nbsp; Artists who don't make expected sales are in trouble.&nbsp; If INSERT NAME OF BAND HERE doesn't cover the expenses of producing its album and whatever videos are made, that band gets a smaller budget next time around, or gets dropped.&nbsp; In fact, if sales are miserable enough, the band will not recoup its costs, and will wind up owing the record company money.&nbsp; That happened to Mark Sandman's first band, Treat Her Right.&nbsp; His second band Morphine, did much better, but produced only a handful of videos because they never sold enough to warrant the record company taking that risk.&nbsp; Did you or anyone you know download Morphine's stuff?What other products do you treat this way?&nbsp; &quot;GM has already made enough money from its Pontiac Ram Air Firebird, so I'll take that one.&quot;&nbsp; &quot;I don't need a ticket to see this movie because its already set a box office record.&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Doctor, you've already seen a whole bunch of patients this year, so I'm not paying your bill.&quot;&nbsp; Just because the harm may be relatively small does not mean it is nonexistent or justified.&nbsp; See my first post about Kant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 1558641, member: 19675"] Boo hoo. When I got into gaming, I lived in Denver. A couple of months later, I moved to Manhattan...Manhattan, Kansas, pop. 10,000. I could go to the KSU bookstore and buy the DMG, PHB, & MM and Dragon Magazine. Anything else I wanted I had to go to Kansas City to get, and we could only make that trip 1/month. (Yes, barefoot over mountains through snow fighting off cyborg-demon alligators :lol: ) The only reason I played Traveller or Star Fleet Battles was because I had a buddy (named Buddy) who already had the games when he moved into town. You don't believe you're hurting the artists so its OK? They've already been paid enough so its OK? Other people already paid for it so its OK? How arbitrary is that? As one of my law profs would say, "That doesn't even pass a sniff test." What you believe is not backed up by empirical evidence. Artists who don't make expected sales are in trouble. If INSERT NAME OF BAND HERE doesn't cover the expenses of producing its album and whatever videos are made, that band gets a smaller budget next time around, or gets dropped. In fact, if sales are miserable enough, the band will not recoup its costs, and will wind up owing the record company money. That happened to Mark Sandman's first band, Treat Her Right. His second band Morphine, did much better, but produced only a handful of videos because they never sold enough to warrant the record company taking that risk. Did you or anyone you know download Morphine's stuff? What other products do you treat this way? "GM has already made enough money from its Pontiac Ram Air Firebird, so I'll take that one." "I don't need a ticket to see this movie because its already set a box office record." "Doctor, you've already seen a whole bunch of patients this year, so I'm not paying your bill." Just because the harm may be relatively small does not mean it is nonexistent or justified. See my first post about Kant. [/QUOTE]

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