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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yair" data-source="post: 1558656" data-attributes="member: 10913">I know all about Kant.And no other products.I am not saying it works in general, I am saying it works for me. And again, this applies only when there is NO hurt to the artist - I do not consider LACK of sales of the truly successful artists a hurt, they have earned enough money to keep doing art for the rest of their lives unless they lead them excessively. I am not taking their money, their goods, or their time. I am just making a copy of something they have already made. Electronic goods are special this way.Of course your law professor would smirk at it. At no point did I claim this mindset would be acceptable in any legal system whatsoever.It is extremely arbitrary, but it isn't unfair. Not as far as I am concertned, anyways. These people already got what they derserve; anything else is sheer greed. And I am not taking anything from them, just copying something without any material loss to them. And again - when there is doubt, I do purchase.Suppose GM did make enough profit from the Firebird - above and beyond the profit I consider reasonable. And suppose I could take one from the company lot, before it was delivered through middle-men. Would taking it be illegal? Certainly.Would it be morally wrong, if I need a car? I believe not (I know most will differ). The car is there, the benefit to its current owner I consider to be negative (sinful, remember?), the benefit for me will be positive (I NEED a car), where is the harm? In taking away the rights of property? Sorry, like all rights I believe they should be restricted. If there is pressing need for someone else, and little to no benefit to the current owner, I do believe it is just to take property. (So do most people; I am just more relaxed about it - the old "steal to feed the hungry" shtick).Now the fact is GM is NOT making an unreasonable profit from the Firebird. Excessive profit is excessive by an order of magnitude - if, for example, I would find out that GM is making 700% profit on each car sold, then maybe I'll say it is excessive. I do not believe this is the situation.Compare with Ms. Spears. She already made more than 150K from the record; I consider a reasonable pay for time spent perhaps 60K. Me downloading it will cost her nothing (unlike the production cost of the lost Firebird). With all due respect, I am not about to feel bad about downloading it. But this argument is getting out of hand; this is not the topic of this thread, and I am quite aware I will not convince anyone in my rather esotetic views on morality.I do not wish to continue debating this point; I do not feel it is conductive to this thread.</blockquote>

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