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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kalanyr" data-source="post: 1563515" data-attributes="member: 190">Re jasper: (Sorry if I've missed your point but I find your posts fairly hard to read). Ah but see downloading a pdf copy isn't stomping in the tulip bed (which is akin to going into the business and burning a copy without reading it), its more like making a perfect copy of the tulip and taking it home, you've lose exclusive right to the tulip you've paid for, yup, that is certainly unethical, my point is that its LESS unethical than digging up your tulip and taking it home with me (which is how I see theft). I think some people are completely missing my point I view downloading as unethical sure, what I disagree with is the notion that its WORSE than theft as the punishment the legal system meets out indicates, which is fricking ridiculous.  In other words I see theft as a crime in magnitude equal to Destroy a Copy + Download a Copy, to me the idea that Download a Copy is equal to or worse than doing both (or even just destroying the copy) is stupid and not at all moral its sophistication by people fisihing for money and moral high ground, people are more likely to come down on your side if you make the crime look bad.</blockquote>