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<blockquote data-quote="TBeholder" data-source="post: 8609986" data-attributes="member: 41606"><p>“Objective”? </p><p></p><p>IDK. Why would he? And yes, that’s just one dude, Itchy Bacca.</p><p></p><p>Is it?</p><p></p><p>I suppose, it's possible. Likewise, it seems possible to check every linked web page for mentions of, for example, color pink. But, uh, what would be the point (in either case)? To have “elephant in the room” joke translated into the medium of performance art in a new way?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Presumably. Including half a dozen of particularly ill-considered products Itchy mocked. What of it?</p><p>The existence of products does not make a franchise great. There also needs to be <em>demand</em> for them. It’s not obvious?</p><p>Let’s be more specific. I followed his link to “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Value Figures 4-inch Action Figure Assortment” of Luke, Chewbacca, Dart Vader and a stormtrooper in Hasbro web shop right now. It’s still there. Still for $3.</p><p></p><p>Are they?</p><p>After «I literally watched “Solo” SOLO», etc? After relevant part of Hasbro revenue dropped by half in 2 years (unless JediTempleArchives seriously messed up… do you see anything wrong with their analysis?).</p><p>Of course, that was 2018. A lot could happen between 2018 and 2022. Oh, they are still selling the <em>original trilogy</em> figures under a fig leaf of the <em>Rise of Skywalker</em>? Never mind.</p><p>Do you not see how damning it is? When Hasbro tries to sell <em>pre-Disney</em> stuff in a roundabout way compliant with the letter of their license… what does this tell us about demand for anything related to <em>Disney</em> Star Wars? Is it likely that all these shiny new products they can sell <em>without</em> such contortions (which is risky, in that Disney could demand they buy another license for old stuff) go like hot cakes?</p><p>Huh. It’s almost like those “Reylos” did not become a market as good as the people who were fans of Lucas, many of whom now have enough disposable income to indulge in such fancies (and whom Disney repeatedly insulted). Who could guess?</p><p></p><p>“Famous” is an achievement of those who launch franchises, not of those who take them over or sink them. Thus it’s simply misleading.</p><p>Popular? Seriously? How many instances of Princess Leia or Admiral Ackbar have you seen spammed around all over Internet? Probably a lot. Or even old Disney princesses?</p><p>Now let’s compare these to Disney Admiral Purplehair and the rest of them. Yeah. Does <em>anyone</em> post <em>anything</em> of Disney Star Wars like this, beyond the “shippers” posting their pick of characters to heavily breathe over, or occasional 3D model?</p><p>Maybe there <em>is</em> something popular from the latest Marvel. I have seen only occasional mockery of a few pratfalls and replacement characters (mostly on imageboards). And even then, very little. I didn’t see Marvel equivalent of Itchy Bacca yet, either. Maybe there is someone. But so far the signs point to “almost nobody gives a damn anymore”. Did you observe anything else?</p><p>Now, how about… Those annoying ponies? Harry Pot ter? Spongebob Sillypants? Link (from Zelda)? Sonic the edgehog?</p><p>Or characters and scenes from half a dozen of the most popular anime series at any time? DragonballZ or whatever. Mainstream shonens (which are <em>bad by default</em>, as Kukuruyo put it). Or good old Sailor Moon. Granted, most of those were and are popular only with early-teens. But we would be comparing them to “Reylos” (at best), so there’s also that.</p><p>Even <em>Doomguy comics</em> has more evidence of being popular than Disney Star Wars or whatever Marvel does these days. “This means your guts are huge!” Perhaps you could tell me what quotes from <em>The Last Jedi</em> are making rounds as much as this? If it’s supposedly popular?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TBeholder, post: 8609986, member: 41606"] “Objective”? IDK. Why would he? And yes, that’s just one dude, Itchy Bacca. Is it? I suppose, it's possible. Likewise, it seems possible to check every linked web page for mentions of, for example, color pink. But, uh, what would be the point (in either case)? To have “elephant in the room” joke translated into the medium of performance art in a new way? Presumably. Including half a dozen of particularly ill-considered products Itchy mocked. What of it? The existence of products does not make a franchise great. There also needs to be [I]demand[/I] for them. It’s not obvious? Let’s be more specific. I followed his link to “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Value Figures 4-inch Action Figure Assortment” of Luke, Chewbacca, Dart Vader and a stormtrooper in Hasbro web shop right now. It’s still there. Still for $3. Are they? After «I literally watched “Solo” SOLO», etc? After relevant part of Hasbro revenue dropped by half in 2 years (unless JediTempleArchives seriously messed up… do you see anything wrong with their analysis?). Of course, that was 2018. A lot could happen between 2018 and 2022. Oh, they are still selling the [I]original trilogy[/I] figures under a fig leaf of the [I]Rise of Skywalker[/I]? Never mind. Do you not see how damning it is? When Hasbro tries to sell [I]pre-Disney[/I] stuff in a roundabout way compliant with the letter of their license… what does this tell us about demand for anything related to [I]Disney[/I] Star Wars? Is it likely that all these shiny new products they can sell [I]without[/I] such contortions (which is risky, in that Disney could demand they buy another license for old stuff) go like hot cakes? Huh. It’s almost like those “Reylos” did not become a market as good as the people who were fans of Lucas, many of whom now have enough disposable income to indulge in such fancies (and whom Disney repeatedly insulted). Who could guess? “Famous” is an achievement of those who launch franchises, not of those who take them over or sink them. Thus it’s simply misleading. Popular? Seriously? How many instances of Princess Leia or Admiral Ackbar have you seen spammed around all over Internet? Probably a lot. Or even old Disney princesses? Now let’s compare these to Disney Admiral Purplehair and the rest of them. Yeah. Does [I]anyone[/I] post [I]anything[/I] of Disney Star Wars like this, beyond the “shippers” posting their pick of characters to heavily breathe over, or occasional 3D model? Maybe there [I]is[/I] something popular from the latest Marvel. I have seen only occasional mockery of a few pratfalls and replacement characters (mostly on imageboards). And even then, very little. I didn’t see Marvel equivalent of Itchy Bacca yet, either. Maybe there is someone. But so far the signs point to “almost nobody gives a damn anymore”. Did you observe anything else? Now, how about… Those annoying ponies? Harry Pot ter? Spongebob Sillypants? Link (from Zelda)? Sonic the edgehog? Or characters and scenes from half a dozen of the most popular anime series at any time? DragonballZ or whatever. Mainstream shonens (which are [I]bad by default[/I], as Kukuruyo put it). Or good old Sailor Moon. Granted, most of those were and are popular only with early-teens. But we would be comparing them to “Reylos” (at best), so there’s also that. Even [I]Doomguy comics[/I] has more evidence of being popular than Disney Star Wars or whatever Marvel does these days. “This means your guts are huge!” Perhaps you could tell me what quotes from [I]The Last Jedi[/I] are making rounds as much as this? If it’s supposedly popular? [/QUOTE]
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