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<blockquote data-quote="drothgery" data-source="post: 3774532" data-attributes="member: 360">In Rich Baker's blog entry here...<a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13779533&amp;postcount=11" target="_blank">http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13779533&amp;postcount=11</a>... he said that a 'swordmage' class grew out of thinking 'what would an arcane defender look like', and got nearly to the point of being included in PH1 before being shuffled off to a later book. Which got me wondering about all the other points on the matrix.Here's how I'd slice up the 3.5 PH classes...[code]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; arcane&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; divine&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; martialcontroller&nbsp; &nbsp; wizard&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; druid&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; monk?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; sorcererdefender&nbsp; &nbsp; n/a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; paladin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fighter&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; barbarianleader&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bard&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cleric&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; n/astriker&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; n/a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ranger&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; rogue[/code]Note two arcane controllers, two martial defenders, no arcane defenders or strikers, and no martial leaders. We know all of the 3.5 PH classes aren't making it into PH1, and it seems very likely that a new martial leader (the warlord) is going to be there.So what about the other slots? I'd bet something's in the works for them, too.arcane defender: A new swordmage, apparently. Looks like it killed the PsiWar and took his stuff. Maybe a little of duskblade in there, too.arcane striker: I'm not sure, here. I think strikers are supposed have mobility, the ability to overcome unusual challenges (locked doors, tracking) and the ability to hit really hard. I'm thinking an arcane striker should be using magic for all three. The Knight Phantom PrC from Eberron seems like close to what I'd think for this.martial controller: I sort-of slotted the monk there because I didn't know what else to do with him. But the best proposal I've seen for this spot is some sort of sapper/grenadier type.martial leader: The Warlord looks like an improved mashal/'noble' type class at first pass.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drothgery, post: 3774532, member: 360"] In Rich Baker's blog entry here... [url]http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13779533&postcount=11[/url] ... he said that a 'swordmage' class grew out of thinking 'what would an arcane defender look like', and got nearly to the point of being included in PH1 before being shuffled off to a later book. Which got me wondering about all the other points on the matrix. Here's how I'd slice up the 3.5 PH classes... [code] arcane divine martial controller wizard druid monk? sorcerer defender n/a paladin fighter barbarian leader bard cleric n/a striker n/a ranger rogue [/code] Note two arcane controllers, two martial defenders, no arcane defenders or strikers, and no martial leaders. We know all of the 3.5 PH classes aren't making it into PH1, and it seems very likely that a new martial leader (the warlord) is going to be there. So what about the other slots? I'd bet something's in the works for them, too. [B]arcane defender:[/B] A new swordmage, apparently. Looks like it killed the PsiWar and took his stuff. Maybe a little of duskblade in there, too. [B]arcane striker:[/B] I'm not sure, here. I think strikers are supposed have mobility, the ability to overcome unusual challenges (locked doors, tracking) and the ability to hit really hard. I'm thinking an arcane striker should be using magic for all three. The Knight Phantom PrC from Eberron seems like close to what I'd think for this. [B]martial controller:[/B] I sort-of slotted the monk there because I didn't know what else to do with him. But the best proposal I've seen for this spot is some sort of sapper/grenadier type. [B]martial leader:[/B] The Warlord looks like an improved mashal/'noble' type class at first pass. [/QUOTE]

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