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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 3774804" data-attributes="member: 18">I completely agree that that would make me want to throw the book at the designer who made it, it just fills me with a kind of disgust and disappointment, but I don't think it's the ONLY way a Martial Controller could work.I mean, look what you could do without any mind-control:Stunsslamsdazestrips/entanglesdisarmsinterruptsgrapples bull rushesshovesdirt-throwingthrowing people/enemiesnerve strikesexpert caltrop throwinghamstringing- The class could hit people in fairly normal ways but be utterly expert at stopping them doing stuff. Wizard opens his mouth to cast, catches a rock in it. Rogue sneaks up behind him, he gets sweep-kicked to the floor. Fighter tries to move past him, he gets a shield-bash in the face and is stunned for X rounds. Cleric tries to smash him in the noggin with a two-handed blessed hammer, gets dirt chucked in his eyes and is blinded for a round, and so on.That's how I envision a Martial Controller, either a sort of martial-arts dude full of tricky moves, or a brawling dirty-fighter (quite possibly armed and armoured), who is more focused on stopping enemy action than doing damage etc.</blockquote>