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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 2936413" data-attributes="member: 13966">Well, y'know, Cloud Stryfe was a failure as a SOLDIER, only managed to become a grunt in the army.  He was mediocre at best.  After the incident in Nibelheim, he managed to get medical attention and recover, then wander around for several years and survive by doing odd jobs and learning miscellaneous skills, in addition to the mercenary work he was best suited for.  Only his unnaturally-enhanced abilities allowed him to become so diverse and also a good swordsman.He only became a powerful fighter with almost-universally-good physical and mental capabilities after Hojo experimented on him, and did all kinds of intrusive and inhumane things to Cloud's body using Jenova cells, Mako Radiation Therapy, and probably all kinds of genetic mangling with chemicals and drugs and brain-pattern interference.  Hojo tried and partially succeeded in making Cloud a Sephiroth clone, but since Cloud was such a horribly mediocre or sub-par human specimen in the first place, he was on the verge of dying from all the experiments.  If Zack hadn't broken them both out at feeding time when he did, Cloud would have likely died after the next experiment or two.  Zack didn't respond to the treatments so he was going to be disposed of as useless, while Cloud responded significantly to the treatments but was on the verge of death from them anyway.  If Cloud hadn't escaped and been left for dead by the Shinras who thought he was dying already, he wouldn't have gotten the chance to recover and develop his newly-Mako-and-Jenova-cell-enhanced abilities.So, uh, yeah, Cloud isn't a good example of a typical Final Fantasy character I think, statistically, since he was a mutant-alien freak of nature only barely still human by the time Hojo was done with him.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />  I don't think Squall, Zidane, or Tidus were quite so universally superior to their comrades, in the later Final Fantasy games.....I've been playing FF7 again lately, yeah.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> At some point soon I'll probably get around to reading the Final Fantasy Zero stuff in KM's sig, but I know I had at least tried to read some of it many many months ago......</blockquote>

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