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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6170643" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Could you provide a link where they say this is a concept test?</p><p></p><p></p><p>While I've never managed or administered a large public playtest I've participated in the betas of numerous MMOs. 150,000 people are involved in the D&D Next playtest. During the Beta of the most recent Warcraft expansion, that's how many people were invited in every couple days. They'd have to set-up a form on their website to report problems rather than just hitting /bug, and have a database of known problems, but if it were a priority it would be very possible to accomplish. Not easy mind you, but nothing worth doing is. If they want an edition done right, then it might be worth the effort. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, there are. But given WotC is collecting all their data via online surveys, there's a lot of overlap. The big difference is that online games report problems in real time as they happen while the 5e playtesters are reporting sporadically as surveys are released. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that it is.</p><p>It took me awhile to even try 4e because, in the interim between 3e and 4e I got involved in a new campaign. So I never went out hunting for games. My new campaign started because they cancelled Living Greyhawk and all the players in my region coalesced into a few homegames. And it will take me awhile to start 5e for likely the same reason. I just started a Paizo adventure path and will likely still be playing that in a year. And then I'll want to try some non D&D systems for a while. With Kickstarter going strong there's so many new RPGs gaining attention and traction. From this year alone I have some FATE Eclipse Phase I'd love to try and Shadows of Esteren. To say nothing of what will come out in the next year. </p><p></p><p>People play what's available and if 5e isn't available they have a long time to get comfortable in other campaigns and systems. 5e becomes the game many people will pick up when it's convenient not right away at launch. </p><p></p><p></p><p>There's barely any reason to check the WotC website anyway. </p><p>There's three articles every few days and one is editon neutral and not really of interest to me as I don't play in the Realms. The monster articles were cool but they're beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel and I can't imagine them holding my interest for another forty-odd weeks. And there's only so much Legends & Lore can say now. We've been getting teasing half hints and potential mechanics and design for longer than we've known about 5th Edition.</p><p>After a year... </p><p></p><p>All the good news is here at ENWorld. I come here far more often. But since this is not a dedicated D&D site and will likely be covering 13th Age, Numeria, Paizo and other games as much as 5e it'll be easy to miss the news. </p><p></p><p>Two years is a long time to hold people's interest and the WotC marketing department isn't that great at the best of times. Unless you seek out information on D&D you're not likely to find it. Without new big changes to the packets and regular product D&D will slip a little lower on the radar.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6170643, member: 37579"] Could you provide a link where they say this is a concept test? While I've never managed or administered a large public playtest I've participated in the betas of numerous MMOs. 150,000 people are involved in the D&D Next playtest. During the Beta of the most recent Warcraft expansion, that's how many people were invited in every couple days. They'd have to set-up a form on their website to report problems rather than just hitting /bug, and have a database of known problems, but if it were a priority it would be very possible to accomplish. Not easy mind you, but nothing worth doing is. If they want an edition done right, then it might be worth the effort. Yes, there are. But given WotC is collecting all their data via online surveys, there's a lot of overlap. The big difference is that online games report problems in real time as they happen while the 5e playtesters are reporting sporadically as surveys are released. Except that it is. It took me awhile to even try 4e because, in the interim between 3e and 4e I got involved in a new campaign. So I never went out hunting for games. My new campaign started because they cancelled Living Greyhawk and all the players in my region coalesced into a few homegames. And it will take me awhile to start 5e for likely the same reason. I just started a Paizo adventure path and will likely still be playing that in a year. And then I'll want to try some non D&D systems for a while. With Kickstarter going strong there's so many new RPGs gaining attention and traction. From this year alone I have some FATE Eclipse Phase I'd love to try and Shadows of Esteren. To say nothing of what will come out in the next year. People play what's available and if 5e isn't available they have a long time to get comfortable in other campaigns and systems. 5e becomes the game many people will pick up when it's convenient not right away at launch. There's barely any reason to check the WotC website anyway. There's three articles every few days and one is editon neutral and not really of interest to me as I don't play in the Realms. The monster articles were cool but they're beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel and I can't imagine them holding my interest for another forty-odd weeks. And there's only so much Legends & Lore can say now. We've been getting teasing half hints and potential mechanics and design for longer than we've known about 5th Edition. After a year... All the good news is here at ENWorld. I come here far more often. But since this is not a dedicated D&D site and will likely be covering 13th Age, Numeria, Paizo and other games as much as 5e it'll be easy to miss the news. Two years is a long time to hold people's interest and the WotC marketing department isn't that great at the best of times. Unless you seek out information on D&D you're not likely to find it. Without new big changes to the packets and regular product D&D will slip a little lower on the radar. [/QUOTE]
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