Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6177283" data-attributes="member: 17106">I don't recall forcing anything. I expect a halfling fighter to focus on something he's good at, like avoiding hits and using thrown weapons. I just don't expect that the final outcome of a three-foot tall person throwing knives to be quite as good as the six-foot brute skillfully wielding an axe. When Verne Troyer fights Vin Diesel, Riddick wins.I don't think the question is balance. In a game of roughly equal combat and noncombat focus, I expect that the bard would be a bit behind on the combat side, a bit ahead on the social side, and a bit behind on the exploration thing (to use the three pillars everyone's so fond of). And that there's a lot of other variables in play. After all, bards are much more useful when combined with large numbers of melee characters that they can aid, advise, and heal.Yes he can. He can speak effectively about the natural world, and he can scare and impress people. Everyone has some options most of the time, and a few people are optimally engaged at any given time, and only rarely are people useless at any given time.Maybe it's time to push back towards the randomness.I think circumstances in which it creates a weakening/strengthening simply due to math need to be addressed (the rampant rounding issues that screw with saves and BAB). I don't think the classes or the multiclass rules need to be redesigned to force that kind of equivalency. A barbarian 2, a bard 2, and a bard 1/barbarian 1 are all different characters, which should be mechanically different.</blockquote>

Verification