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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 3303822" data-attributes="member: 78">I think Scintillating Pattern was included since it was intended that Warmages eventually meet the spell requirements for Archmage.  Same thing for the necromancy stuff.  Mastery of Shaping is a good thing to shoot for if the warmage cares about precision.I can see cutting Flamestrike (divine damage is a bit odd for them), but I think Firestorm at least is important for the mass slaughter aspect of the class.  It has one of the biggest areas around for a damaging spell, which seems like it'd fit nicely with their battlefield uses.Lightning Ring is no substitute for Horrid Wilting, especially since the caster level on the Lightning Bolts is only 5, thereby rendering the spell useless against SR.  Horrid Wilting is one of the best blaster spells around, even if its school is rather odd, so it's rather cruel to remove it because you don't seem to want warmages with necromancy.  Too bad there's no evocation spell like Horrid wilting.The removal of scorching ray is unusual; has this been removed in general?The switches for Avalanche, Firebrand, Electric Loop and Chain Missiles seem good.  Mass Fireshield...  What were they thinking?With the removal of the save or dies, some debuffs and battlefield control, the class seems much narrower.  Although you seem to disagree, the class doesn't seem particularly strong in the first place, so you might want to be careful about taking too much off.</blockquote>

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